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This looks like a really cool pedal, and I’m really excited to hear how people like it.

One of my favorite sections on the JHS Punchline is the simple VCA compressor up front. I’ve been poking around looking for another simple but musical VCA compressor and this might be the one.

VCA compression, parallel mix, and a TOOB, truly an LED meter would be the little blinking cherry on top, but this looks like a great compliment to my Empress.
 
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I was never a big “tube guy” for bass guitar. I always preferred solid state. (even though I owned a 76 SVT for a few years.. great, powerful amp, but I’m sure it contributed to all my back operations)
anyway, tried out the EBS Valve Drive for a quick month. I must’ve gotten a defective one because every tube I rolled in It, went into a thermal breakdown after an hour. I should’ve returned it, but one thing led to another, and it just sits in my storage facility. I was so turned off to the tube thing.

And then I saw a video on the slampegg bee pre with a 12AT7 in there…. Loved how it sounded with the lower gain tube. (I always thought anything over a 12AT7 for bass, went into distortion too quickly… unless you’re into metal or punk) Nathan said in a previous email to me, that you can put ANY of the 12A*7 family in there, with no problems-just gain reduction.
So I informed Nathan on the invoice notes to slip me a 12AT7 on my unit.
Didn’t realize it didn’t come with the power supply… (temporarily using the old white gigantic radio shack, multi voltage power supply 12V/800mA)
emailed Nathan for suggestions, but I never heard back from him. He’s probably busy. so I ordered a normal sized 12V/1.2A Center-Neg PS off of Amazon. Let’s hope the tip fits the unit (I know what you’re thinking. The amperage rating is overkill… but I’ll return to that in a second)

Been messing around with it for a few days…. Sounds great. It does exactly what a tube does. After a half hour, the highs start to roll off, the low mids start to bump, and after an hour, I’m into glowing romantic mush. LOL
And I gotta tell ya, after an hour and a half of that pedal being on,… well,… I won’t say you can “fry an egg on it”,…. But that pedal gets DARN WARM after a certain amount of time. I let it cool down for 10 minutes before I put it away.

Like I said, 12AX7, 5751,… those preamp tubes are just too hot for bass (in my opinion)… I like the T that’s in there. And with that, I have the gain between 9:30-10 o’clock.- and the master between 12-1 o’clock… I find thats pretty much the sweet spot for me….

Since I’m not a big fan of distorted bass, I might even roll a 12AY7, 12AV7, & even try a very low 12AU7 in there at some point, to jack that gain up a little more, while staying clean.

So here’s the question:

As the gain factor ‘goes down’ on the preamp tubes, doesn’t the ‘current draw’ of the unit “go up” inversely?
This is why I opted for a larger current draw allowance on the power supply. With the stock 12AX7, the spec says the current draw is 400mA. And again, like I said previously, the pedal,..and the old RS power supply I’m temporarily using, are both pretty Darn Warm to the touch,.. which is justifying my suspicions about the higher current flow (within the unit) using a ‘lower gain’ preamp tube.

Can somebody chime in who knows what they’re talking about (because I certainly don’t, I’m just going with my tinfoil hat!) and straighten me out about tube circuit behavior- and proper tube rolling?

Thanks
Juicy
 
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Just received one hour ago the Grand Slampegg. Damn that thing sounds good! I wanted to use that preamp alone for my practice space (a bass, the GS, an amp), and for that use the GS is perfect. It gives a nice and warm tone, rich mids, great sound ! The baxandall EQ is perfect for that use : simple and effective.

On my pedalboard I have a More and a Nobellium, both are more subtle preamps. I haven't checked yet, but I guess that the GS is better used alone, it has much more voice, so I may not replace my Nobelium with the GS in my pedalboard yet.View attachment 7081664
What kind of straplock is that - did it come stock like that?
 
This looks like a really cool pedal, and I’m really excited to hear how people like it.

One of my favorite sections on the JHS Punchline is the simple VCA compressor up front. I’ve been poking around looking for another simple but musical VCA compressor and this might be the one.

VCA compression, parallel mix, and a TOOB, truly an LED meter would be the little blinking cherry on top, but this looks like a great compliment to my Empress.
VCA comps sound great with bass! I use the Cali76 now but had a Collaboration Devices “The Compressor” for a while and absolutely loved it. It doesn’t have metering (even though there’s a VU meter that’s more or less an input meter) but was super simple to use and sounded great. I regret selling it, but maybe this will scratch the VCA comp itch!
 
So, I made a quick (and dirty) video for comparing the Nobelium and the Grand Slampegg, so you can make your own ideas. Enjoy !
Spoiler : both are great.

Peertube Video
Just listened to your demo; seems like the Grand Slampegg is bigger sounding than the Nobelium in flat settings; and gets even beefier; that whine is always there though?
 
Just listened to your demo; seems like the Grand Slampegg is bigger sounding than the Nobelium in flat settings; and gets even beefier; that whine is always there though?
Yes, the GS is bigger sounding. I'm not sure what you mean about the "whine". The kind of buzz you hear in the video ? I do not hear that when I play with my amp, but the GS is noisier than the Nobelium (which is dead silent).
 
I was never a big “tube guy” for bass guitar. I always preferred solid state. (even though I owned a 76 SVT for a few years.. great, powerful amp, but I’m sure it contributed to all my back operations)
anyway, tried out the EBS Valve Drive for a quick month. I must’ve gotten a defective one because every tube I rolled in It, went into a thermal breakdown after an hour. I should’ve returned it, but one thing led to another, and it just sits in my storage facility. I was so turned off to the tube thing.

And then I saw a video on the slampegg bee pre with a 12AT7 in there…. Loved how it sounded with the lower gain tube. (I always thought anything over a 12AT7 for bass, went into distortion too quickly… unless you’re into metal or punk) Nathan said in a previous email to me, that you can put ANY of the 12A*7 family in there, with no problems-just gain reduction.
So I informed Nathan on the invoice notes to slip me a 12AT7 on my unit.
Didn’t realize it didn’t come with the power supply… (temporarily using the old white gigantic radio shack, multi voltage power supply 12V/800mA)
emailed Nathan for suggestions, but I never heard back from him. He’s probably busy. so I ordered a normal sized 12V/1.2A Center-Neg PS off of Amazon. Let’s hope the tip fits the unit (I know what you’re thinking. The amperage rating is overkill… but I’ll return to that in a second)

Been messing around with it for a few days…. Sounds great. It does exactly what a tube does. After a half hour, the highs start to roll off, the low mids start to bump, and after an hour, I’m into glowing romantic mush. LOL
And I gotta tell ya, after an hour and a half of that pedal being on,… well,… I won’t say you can “fry an egg on it”,…. But that pedal gets DARN WARM after a certain amount of time. I let it cool down for 10 minutes before I put it away.

Like I said, 12AX7, 5751,… those preamp tubes are just too hot for bass (in my opinion)… I like the T that’s in there. And with that, I have the gain between 9:30-10 o’clock.- and the master between 12-1 o’clock… I find thats pretty much the sweet spot for me….

Since I’m not a big fan of distorted bass, I might even roll a 12AY7, 12AV7, & even try a very low 12AU7 in there at some point, to jack that gain up a little more, while staying clean.

So here’s the question:

As the gain factor ‘goes down’ on the preamp tubes, doesn’t the ‘current draw’ of the unit “go up” inversely?
This is why I opted for a larger current draw allowance on the power supply. With the stock 12AX7, the spec says the current draw is 400mA. And again, like I said previously, the pedal,..and the old RS power supply I’m temporarily using, are both pretty Darn Warm to the touch,.. which is justifying my suspicions about the higher current flow (within the unit) using a ‘lower gain’ preamp tube.

Can somebody chime in who knows what they’re talking about (because I certainly don’t, I’m just going with my tinfoil hat!) and straighten me out about tube circuit behavior- and proper tube rolling?

Thanks
Juicy
I apologize, I saw your email and had every intention to get back to you, but I've had a hell of a week followed by a hell of a weekend. I slept until 3PM today and feel a lot better, so I'm trying to catch up. I typically recommend 9V supplies because there are a lot more of them out there and they can be had pretty cheap. Also since the high voltage is regulated internally so the tube will see the same high voltage regardless of the input voltage.

As such I don't have a specific 12V supply that I recommend, I would just recommend a bare minimum of 500mA, make sure it's good for a 2.1mm pin and make sure it's center-negative polarity.

With regards to your gain factor vs current draw question, there is a correlation between high gain factors and low plate draw, but typically the main instance you want high plate current is when you're using the tube stage to drive a load, which is not something I do much in my preamps. Because of how the circuits are set up there should not be much difference in current draw between different tube types. It should also be noted that the highest current draw in a preamp tube is going to be the heater, which is fairly consistent between all 12A*7 tube types. Plate current draw refers to the amount of current being pulled from the high voltage rail, and the difference in pull between 12AX7 and 12AU7 is only 28mA. This gets scaled a bit between the high voltage rail and the input voltage rail, but we don't need to get too far into the math there. Any of my preamps that were designed to use a 12AX7 (which is the majority of them) can use a 12AU7 without modification and will not be damaged as a result.
 
I apologize, I saw your email and had every intention to get back to you, but I've had a hell of a week followed by a hell of a weekend. I slept until 3PM today and feel a lot better, so I'm trying to catch up. I typically recommend 9V supplies because there are a lot more of them out there and they can be had pretty cheap. Also since the high voltage is regulated internally so the tube will see the same high voltage regardless of the input voltage.

As such I don't have a specific 12V supply that I recommend, I would just recommend a bare minimum of 500mA, make sure it's good for a 2.1mm pin and make sure it's center-negative polarity.

With regards to your gain factor vs current draw question, there is a correlation between high gain factors and low plate draw, but typically the main instance you want high plate current is when you're using the tube stage to drive a load, which is not something I do much in my preamps. Because of how the circuits are set up there should not be much difference in current draw between different tube types. It should also be noted that the highest current draw in a preamp tube is going to be the heater, which is fairly consistent between all 12A*7 tube types. Plate current draw refers to the amount of current being pulled from the high voltage rail, and the difference in pull between 12AX7 and 12AU7 is only 28mA. This gets scaled a bit between the high voltage rail and the input voltage rail, but we don't need to get too far into the math there. Any of my preamps that were designed to use a 12AX7 (which is the majority of them) can use a 12AU7 without modification and will not be damaged as a result.
Ahhh OK …that’s the info I needed
No load (or power section) then current draw is mostly a moot issue on a single preamp tube Pedal..got it
Come to think of it, of course, I guess from the nature of it, ANY Tube pedal is going to ‘get hot’ then. Lol

Thank you for your response Nathan,… sorry you had a hectic week… I knew you were busy… all good…
If I got what you’re saying, anything from 9-12V is OK. (I mean, I already ordered it so lol)
so as long as that 12V power supply I ordered won’t “hurt” the pedal (and the tip jives in the dc-in) I’ll use it.
if the tip doesn’t jive for any reason, then I will def seek out a 9V/500mA+ PS
Thanks again for the info.
J
 
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Grand Slampegg…Oh yeah! :cool:

Well done Nathan! :thumbsup:

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This board just sounds PHAT! 🥴

The Linden & Fliptop provide 2-different satisfying versions of boost. Looks like I could still add at least one more pedal (suggestions welcome!).

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Looking good! If you're thinking of adding one more, you could always keep it simple and add one MORE (to keep it in the SB family).

I also love Lightning Boy Fe23 in the mix.
 
Good morning everyone. I have just got my SushiBox Finally V2 in the mail last night and was curious how everyone is Powering their units. I was planning on using a Voodoo Labs Current doubling cable with either my PP3 or my X4 to

This board just sounds PHAT! 🥴

The Linden & Fliptop provide 2-different satisfying versions of boost. Looks like I could still add at least one more pedal (suggestions welcome!).

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Broughton RFE or L+H pass filter would be my addition.
 
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Why no slogan on the back cover of the GS
I stopped doing the logo and slogan on the back covers when I started outsourcing the enclosure printing. I don't have the means (or the time) to do them myself anymore.