UPS Rate Hike…Again

#5
ahadl2500 said:
If demand for shipping services softened, they would. Granted it likely takes a significant economic change to cause that (likely a negative one, so in an odd way I kind of hope they never have a reason to reduce prices).
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UPS's expenses are relatively constant: employees will be paid the same whether they sort more or fewer packages, truck fuel will be roughly the same regardless of whether the trucks are 85% full or 95% full, and so on.

If their business volume shrank, their own expenses per-delivery would go up unless they cut service in some way, either through layoffs or closing sorting facilities or reducing residential deliveries or something else.
 
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FRoss6788 said:
Why would they, or any other shipping company lower their rates?
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I didn’t say they’d lower them but with the cost of gas going down and the economy improving combined with their service declining they should keep them the same.
Last week I shipped a 6x4x4 box weighing 1lb from Baltimore to NYC via UPS ground and it cost $17.59!
 
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ardgedee said:
UPS's expenses are relatively constant: employees will be paid the same whether they sort more or fewer packages, truck fuel will be roughly the same regardless of whether the trucks are 85% full or 95% full, and so on.

If their business volume shrank, their own expenses per-delivery would go up unless they cut service in some way, either through layoffs or closing sorting facilities or reducing residential deliveries or something else.
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I guess you missed this story: UPS to pay $45M to US settle charges that it improperly valued its freight division. Additionally, last year UPS workers went on strike for better, more equitable pay. They pass these costs on to us consumers.
 
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Their service and reliability are outstanding. I rely on them every day for my projects. And of the hundreds of packages my office ships daily to “just in time” installation projects I haven’t had a single missed delivery or lost shipment issue in 3 years.

And if you’ve ever seen the guy with the clip board and the ticker walking behind your driver, that supervisor is counting steps. Anyone who would ever accuse a UPS employee of underperforming has never seen a UPS employee.

Those drivers want and deserve a raise, just like you do. But I don’t hear any drivers or sorters or loaders complaining about you wanting your fair wage.

FWIW most residential parcel deliveries by UPS, FedEx, USPS are loss to break-even unless you live in a congested high rise with consolidated receiving.

ps
More than half your friends and family rely on UPS for their own job.

Worth it.
 
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Killing Floor said:
Their service and reliability are outstanding. I rely on them every day for my projects. And of the hundreds of packages my office ships daily to “just in time” installation projects I haven’t had a single missed delivery or lost shipment issue in 3 years.

And if you’ve ever seen the guy with the clip board and the ticker walking behind your driver, that supervisor is counting steps. Anyone who would ever accuse a UPS employee of underperforming has never seen a UPS employee.

Those drivers want and deserve a raise, just like you do. But I don’t hear any drivers or sorters or loaders complaining about you wanting your fair wage.

FWIW most residential parcel deliveries by UPS, FedEx, USPS are loss to break-even unless you live in a congested high rise with consolidated receiving.

ps
More than half your friends and family rely on UPS for their own job.

Worth it.
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Spot on :thumbsup:
 
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MonetBass said:
I guess you missed this story: UPS to pay $45M to US settle charges that it improperly valued its freight division. Additionally, last year UPS workers went on strike for better, more equitable pay. They pass these costs on to us consumers.
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Not really, because they're being fined for knowingly filing a false report, meaning that internally they knew what the value was and the SEC caught them at it. It doesn't affect the company's actual earnings; if anything it can affect investor attitudes, in which case that was a self-own. Can't blame anybody other than the executives who signed off on it.

And as a company that made $90B last year, a $45M fine will make roughly a 0.05% dent. Less than either fuel expenses or rank-and-file wages and salaries.
 
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Killing Floor said:
Their service and reliability are outstanding. I rely on them every day for my projects. And of the hundreds of packages my office ships daily to “just in time” installation projects I haven’t had a single missed delivery or lost shipment issue in 3 years.

And if you’ve ever seen the guy with the clip board and the ticker walking behind your driver, that supervisor is counting steps. Anyone who would ever accuse a UPS employee of underperforming has never seen a UPS employee.

Those drivers want and deserve a raise, just like you do. But I don’t hear any drivers or sorters or loaders complaining about you wanting your fair wage.

FWIW most residential parcel deliveries by UPS, FedEx, USPS are loss to break-even unless you live in a congested high rise with consolidated receiving.

ps
More than half your friends and family rely on UPS for their own job.

Worth it.
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I unloaded UPS trucks as a second/third job maybe 30 years ago. Start at 4am, finish between 7am and 8am (whenever the last trailer was unloaded).

Supervisors would come by with a stopwatch to make sure that a package was leaving the trailer every 3 seconds or less.
 
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#15
BaltBass5 said:
Just got an email from UPS that they are raising their rates 6% in the U.S.
Like they aren’t already high enough for the horrible service they provide!
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take it easy. my brother is a proud UPS driver and provides top-rated service to all his customers. he breaks his tail 12 hours a day so people like YOU can get the stuff they buy all the time
 
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