Fretless roasted below was assembled during the pandemic.
I'm not bustin your chops, I'm genuinely curious:I decided to update this post to send an SOS to Warmoth
Warmoth makes good bodies but I do wish and agree that they would make them 1-5/8" or 1-1/2" thick, true to the Fender vintage dimensions. They're philosophy seems to be a conservative one, tending to slightly over-spec or overbuild parts a bit as far as heft or girth apply.
It's somewhat understandable in that they likely believe it signals quality and robust reliability (better than Fender replacement) to consumers and possibly very slightly reduces risk of warranty claims. Coming from the '80s, literally founded in 1980, this mindset makes sense.
Warmoth's bodies are thick? IIRC modern Fender is 1.75" as well.I thought I was the only one who dislikes Warmoth's thick bodies. I just built a beautiful Seafoam Green PJ that's going up for sale. Just can't gel with the "Fatty".
I'm not bustin your chops, I'm genuinely curious:
Wouldn't it make more sense to send this directly to Warmoth, than post it in a thread here?
Being a CNC guy by trade, it would take a person less than an hour to edit an existing program. I hear bs like this all the time about things made certain ways vice versa and most times it's crap. 9 times out of ten if there is not a personally vested interest, it will cost too much time and money. BS!No a sales person will tell you it would cost them $10k to write a program to do that. Spike told me something to that effect when I called. So this SOS is sent in hopes that Warmoth head honchos sees that other consumers such as: (you and I). Would like more “variety” {Emphasis Added}. If it comes from one guy from a phone call or an email. You tend to get brushed of with foolish gaslighting hyperbole and or a B.S. response. As they are swift to get you off of the phone. Let’s be Real here, one person making a demand about something will never raise awareness.
100%Being a CNC guy by trade, it would take a person less than an hour to edit an existing program. I hear bs like this all the time about things made certain ways vice versa and most times it's crap. 9 times out of ten if there is no personollay vested interest, it will cost too much time and money. BS!
Wow! You’re right! I had no knowledge of that specific legal battle. I remember hearing about how the headstock shape factored into some lawsuits, but nothing in detail…only occasional talk of the “Lawsuit Basses” of the 1970’s or thereabouts.I see. You missed the point because you fundamentally misunderstand the matter.
The terms, stemming from a trademark infringement lawsuit brought by Fender, and defended by a consortium of established replacement neck makers, in the mid-'90s, pertaining to the headstock shape, are by a court ruling. The terms apply equally to all makers the same whether its Musikraft, Warmoth, Allparts, Wildwood, USAG, so on and so forth. If "Fender-licensed" were in fact relevant to this specific detail of fretboard radiuses, if Musikraft can do it then so can Warmoth.
However, there is no trademark for neck profiles, widths, front-to-back dimensions, and fretboard radiuses. Fender-licensed is irrelevant in this regard. Warmoth can make whatever radius of fretboards they wish.
If you want far more options to choose from for a made-to-order high quality Fender-licensed neck than what Warmoth offers, order from Musikraft.
I'm not bustin your chops, I'm genuinely curious:
Wouldn't it make more sense to send this directly to Warmoth, than post it in a thread here?
Wow! You’re right! I had no knowledge of that specific legal battle. I remember hearing about how the headstock shape factored into some lawsuits, but nothing in detail…only occasional talk of the “Lawsuit Basses” of the 1970’s or thereabouts.
Do you have any links to articles regarding the ‘90s case(s)? I’d really like to learn more!
Funny enough or coincidentally, the dude from Warmoth did a little video about this. There's definitely more out there online written about it, probably by IP attorneys.
I'm aware of this option, it's a significant upcharge and unnecessary. There are millions of great basses in the world without steel or graphite neck reinforcement. It would be easier and less expensive for them to make necks without reinforcement. They offer this with their guitar necks.
Just for laughs, If Warmoth offered 2, 5, 10 more bass neck profile options, how much do you think this would affect their throughput in a year? Maybe 50 necks?