I wish! Smallish town, and we just play for the fun of it (no money).#1 priority: Find a good Drummer.
I wish! Smallish town, and we just play for the fun of it (no money).#1 priority: Find a good Drummer.
Get a cheap foot tambourine.Thanks. I think I'm probably the closest we have to such a person. I hope that's not just ego speaking -- and I am the bass player.
In my experience, it's better to have the wrong instrumentation with the right musicians, than the other way around. The right musicians can figure out how to make it work and sound good. I once played an entire set of just bass and vocals, because the pianist was late, and it worked out just fine. I'd do it again.I wish! Smallish town, and we just play for the fun of it (no money).
It's not magic at all. In all those groupings you mention, someone USUALLY sets time for the rest of the band. Bluegrass bands often look to the bass player to keep time. Classical groups also typically have one of their members lead time ( most often horn or flute in a woodwind group, usually first violin for a string group). Of course, in a perfect world, each player would have perfect time and be in perfect sync with the all the other players, but in the real world, that is often not the case. The OP is realistically seeking guidance to get his band synced up on time, so there must be some issue with that.And yet somehow bluegrass bands, old time bands, string quartets, woodwind quintets, etc magically manage to keep time without a trap drummer back there going THUMP WHACK THUMP WHACK. Lift up your head and look outside that little rock and roll box you've chained yourself inside of. It'll make you a better musician.
The OP was just referring to practiceThere are rock genres, such as postpunk, in which a drum machine is totally accepted as traditional. But if you're doing blues rock, well... you're more or less expected to either have a human drummer or go acoustic.
Yes, at the beginning in most cases. But they keep the beat without THUMP WHACK THUMP WHACK wailing away behind them. Thus the constant statement "you have to get a drummer" is not accurate.It's not magic at all. In all those groupings you mention, someone USUALLY sets time for the rest of the band. ...
Why would any one be insulted? If somebody does, why would you want to work with him/her?The thread title says it all. I'm the one who usually counts the beat when we start a song. Do you think a simple metronome click would be insulting to the others?
well, no. In each of those cases, the group relies on the timekeeper throughout a performance, particularly when there may be dynamic tempo changes. Of course, it would not be appropriate for any of them (string ensemble, woodwind ensemble, bluegrass band) to use a drummer going Thump Whack Thump Whack ... but someone in those groups is keeping time for the whole ensemble.Yes, at the beginning in most cases. But they keep the beat without THUMP WHACK THUMP WHACK wailing away behind them. Thus the constant statement "you have to get a drummer" is not accurate.
The drummer in the band I left recently was really quiet (and not the best timekeeper even when audible) so I suggested that we try rehearsing to a click track for a while to shortcut the tightening up process. 3/5 of the band considered this an insult to the drummer, and huffed and guffawed when I insisted that, while time is the drummer's *only* job, time is actually *everyone's* job. Didn't tighten up one bit in the 6 months I was on board.curious: why would using a metronome be insulting to others/anyone? TIA
that's too bad. the ability to play with a click is de rigueur in my world...i know drummers in the rock/pop genres who insist on a click!...I suggested that we try rehearsing to a click track for a while to shortcut the tightening up process. 3/5 of the band considered this an insult to the drummer, and huffed and guffawed...
if the drummer i'm playing with is getting a click: i like to hear it, too. if there is no click: we're all keeping time.time is the drummer's *only* job, time is actually *everyone's* job.