What bass "bootcamps" are out there?

Check out Fur Peace Ranch, Jorma Kaukonen's music camp in Ohio. It mainly focuses on guitarists, but has a number of bass-focused programs throughout the year. I've been lucky enough to go twice, and had Jack Casady as my instructor for one of them. It was an amazing experience.

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When we play music, do we battle or do we try and provide a form of Art, Musical Art. Some will enjoy one or the other and some will enjoy both.

LOL, it isn't that deep. I don't get too wrapped around the axle about all that art stuff people like to spout about. It makes me itch. Just play some music, man. I'm good with playing Coltrane tunes, I'm good with playing Skynard. It's all good with me.
 
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Check out Fur Peace Ranch, Jorma Kaukonen's music camp in Ohio. It mainly focuses on guitarists, but has a number of bass-focused programs throughout the year. I've been lucky enough to go twice, and had Jack Casady as my instructor for one of them. It was an amazing experience.

Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like their bass-specific programs are full for the year :/
 
I wish someone would try to describe it, because I get a similar response from the local bass player who went to V.W.'s camp.




I didn't learn stretching techniques from the camp directly, but my friend shared some with me that indeed changed my life.
Prior to learning the stretches I couldn't play for more than 45 minutes/day without jacking up my arm, sort of a tennis-elbow feeling. (to the point that I couldn't even lift a bottle with my left arm)
After I learned the stretches & did them for only two days I was able to play for 3 hours straight, and of course I'm still doing the exercises daily.

Can you share any of the stuff you learned?
or is there some sort of disclaimer?

One thing Victor hammered, indeed a major theme of the whole camp, was to let go of the idea of "wrong notes". Felix Pastorius improvised beautifully, in his master class, over a Cmaj7 pad, and he used only the 6 notes NOT in the C major scale!

Some notes impart more tension, some impart more consonance and release, but the only wrong note is the unintended note. And, you can play almost any note right be what you play afterwards to release the tension.

The jams at night were a blast, although if I went to Wooten Woods again I would go to something other than bass/nature camp. I ended up playing a lot of drums because I can actually keep a fairly funky beat on the kit. Can't play a fill to save my life, but I was the 2nd best drummer there among the students at my camp. And when you're playing bass, it's like 6 different guys on bass and one drummer. Still there were some good jams for sure.
 
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I wish someone would try to describe it, because I get a similar response from the local bass player who went to V.W.'s camp.




I didn't learn stretching techniques from the camp directly, but my friend shared some with me that indeed changed my life.
Prior to learning the stretches I couldn't play for more than 45 minutes/day without jacking up my arm, sort of a tennis-elbow feeling. (to the point that I couldn't even lift a bottle with my left arm)
After I learned the stretches & did them for only two days I was able to play for 3 hours straight, and of course I'm still doing the exercises daily.

Can you share any of the stuff you learned?
or is there some sort of disclaimer?

Can you describe your stretches? I have tennis elbow from doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and I have to be very careful about how I hold my bass, how long I play, etc.
 
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You basically just hold your arms out straight in front of you with your palms facing away & fingers towards the ceiling.
You curl your fingers in like you're gripping something & then back to straight up, and repeat quickly until you can't stand it anymore.

The other involves using a towel or large cloth to do a wringing motion with your hands twisting in opposing directions & then switch/reverse position & continue.
 
You basically just hold your arms out straight in front of you with your palms facing away & fingers towards the ceiling.
You curl your fingers in like you're gripping something & then back to straight up, and repeat quickly until you can't stand it anymore.

That is one of the stretches that I learned at bootcamp. It's also the one I always use. I do it before every practice and before every gig.

Another thing you can do is once you have gotten your fingers good and tired from grip and release, turn your hands palms side down and repeat. It works a different set of muscles. Once you have finished, hold the palms up again, grab your fingers of one hand with the other hand in a group and gently stretch the fingers down for 30 seconds which stretches the tendons of the wrist. As the time passes, and the tendons relax, you can add slightly more pull, but don't pull excessively. Gently release then do the other hand.
 
If Ant offered something similar in MD, I probably wouldn't even consider any other camp.

Subbing to this thread. I've thought about doing some kind of "bass-instructional-retreat-thingie" for a while, but "LIFE" keeps distracting me away. Getting some semi-local and up-to-date information would be a great kick in the pants. Also, in Northern DE and have a pretty good range for what I'm willing to drive to. (Carpool, anyone? :whistle:)

I approach this the same way I did language learning, when I learned Japanese some of my best progress was just showing up to the country and using it with other people, it was also some of the best motivation I would have coming back to study harder.

Learning by "Immersion", aka the "chucking yourself into the deep end" technique?

Can you describe your stretches? I have tennis elbow from doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and I have to be very careful about how I hold my bass, how long I play, etc.

Now you're getting into my professional territory! I'm a long-time massage/neuromuscular/sports therapist and am always looking for new approaches and techniques, especially…

You basically just hold your arms out straight in front of you with your palms facing away & fingers towards the ceiling.
You curl your fingers in like you're gripping something & then back to straight up, and repeat quickly until you can't stand it anymore.

The other involves using a towel or large cloth to do a wringing motion with your hands twisting in opposing directions & then switch/reverse position & continue.

…when they're simple and solid like this one above. ;)

One concept I often have to impart to my clients is how much grip-strength comes from the forearms. But it's understandable that people might not make the connection, what with their pain being seven to ten inches away from the root cause.

Another thing you can do is once you have gotten your fingers good and tired from grip and release, turn your hands palms side down and repeat. It works a different set of muscles. Once you have finished, hold the palms up again, grab your fingers of one hand with the other hand in a group and gently stretch the fingers down for 30 seconds which stretches the tendons of the wrist. As the time passes, and the tendons relax, you can add slightly more pull, but don't pull excessively. Gently release then do the other hand.

That's a technique called "Proprioreceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation", aka "PNF", and it's awesome! :thumbsup: I won't get into the deep, deep science of it, but it's actually a pretty easy concept to wrap one's brain around it. Basically, the brain sends two sets of signals to the muscles…one to contract and one to release. Let's say you're flexing your bicep. Simultaneously, your brain is telling your tricep to release. By bombarding a muscle with the release-signal, you can achieve a little relief for those cranky, overworked areas.

There are ways to enhance one's results, but I'll save that for a later post, if people are interested. :bookworm:

Aha! A Volkswagen sponsored event (Kidding)
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Now, that is an event I can definitely get behind! :woot: :D

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