why can't they make a Steinberger using 3D technology manufacturing?

#23
moonshinegtrs said:
The original Steinbergers consist of laying carbon fiber cloth, then placing them in molds and covered with epoxy (not sure what the epoxy consists of)...

Not exactly 3D printable...




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100% correct.
This, along with the fact the original molds were destroyed, and that Gibson (who now owns Steinberger) has no interest in producing the costly & labor-intensive original L2 design.
Also, I seriously doubt the original preamp supplier (Haz-Labs) could keep up with demand, as they can barely keep up with production of the 9-volt and 18-volt preamps for Spector USA NS-2 and NS-4 basses.
BTW, the "NS" in Spector's bass designations stands for - you guessed it - Ned Steinberger.
 
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#24
3D printing is not really meant for mass production, it's really cool for rapid prototyping or for doing one off parts, but making a mold and then mass producing whatever it is that you 3D printed beforehand will always be cheaper after a certain number of parts.
I think that's a really big misconception about it, 3D printing is not the future of manufacturing, it's the future of prototyping and an amazing tool for people at home to come up with and test their own designs at an affordable price.
 
#25
moonshinegtrs said:
The original Steinbergers consist of laying carbon fiber cloth, then placing them in molds and covered with epoxy (not sure what the epoxy consists of)...

Not exactly 3D printable...




Moonshine :bassist:
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I'm not an expert on 3D printing or materials science, but I see that the full-sized, fully functional Shelby Cobra that was 3D printed at Oak Ridge National Laboratory was done using "...20% carbon fiber reinforced ABS material..." (See ORNL 3D-Printed Shelby Cobra) Can anyone who has more materials expertise speak to how comparable this combination is to the original Steinberger recipe?
 
#26
I worked at Tobias /Steiner germs in the 90's. I was not involved with the molding process.

I may be wrong but I believe the core of the neck was balsa wood blank wrapped with carbon fiber weave cloth then placed in a mold and injected with epoxy resin...

Kinda like boat building (IMHO) .

ymmv.


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#29
Henry J is just like that other wee prick, John Hall: an egomaniac who does not take criticism kindly, if at all. Henry shut down Steinberger. Then, when the operation all went to wrack and ruin, the moulds and plugs got lost forever, probably chucked in a skip.

Guys like those two.... pffff...
 
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