Your thoughts about God ... lyke Power-Grip on rookie pedal board

Enrique M

Enrique M

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I acquired a Pedaltrain Classic 1 w/ 2 pre attached power supplies (Hot Stone SMD & MXR micro) in a firesale that was just too good to pass on. It has a bunch of Godlyke power grip left over from the previous owner. (In case you are wondering, The Hot Stone wont fit underneath)

I am just getting into the pedal board game and suspect I am going to be rearranging things for a while. Word on the internet is that Godlyke PowerGrip locks things very tight. Not sure I want my pedals locked down quite so tight at this stage.

I have also heard that Godlyke Power Grip is hard to remove. I suspect I will be trying to sell some pedals that didn't do it for me and do not want any gunk to harm resell value etc..

It seems the loop side of regular velcro will stick to power grip and I am tempted to just put some type of regular velcro on my pedals and see how much of the power grip that is there I can use. Maybe develop a board with power grip on the pedal board and some kind of velcro on the pedals.

Anyway, this is a drawn out way of saying -- would you try and use the power grip that is there, and if so how? Or would you remove it, and if so how? Or would you do something different?

Thanks, E



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Is that like a Dual Lock alternative? I've only ever used the velcro that came with Pedaltrain boards (and a cheapie from Amazon) and Scotch branded dual lock but they all have peeled off clean. Just get under the edge and pull. A pick can sometimes be helpful getting started. Bought and sold a number of pedals but never had a problem cleaning them up. If there was some residue left over it normally could be picked up by the stick side of the stuff I just pulled off or a rare smudge needing some Isopropyl or something. Try pulling some off and see how it goes.
 
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joel the bass player said:
Is that like a Dual Lock alternative? I've only ever used the velcro that came with Pedaltrain boards (and a cheapie from Amazon) and Scotch branded dual lock but they all have peeled off clean. Just get under the edge and pull. A pick can sometimes be helpful getting started. Bought and sold a number of pedals but never had a problem cleaning them up. If there was some residue left over it normally could be picked up by the stick side of the stuff I just pulled off or a rare smudge needing some Isopropyl or something. Try pulling some off and see how it goes.
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It might even be the same as Dual Lock, but branded differently. I don't really know.

And maybe I rang a false alarm on how hard this stuff was to get off. I messed with a patch and either I got lucky or it is not as bad as I was lead to believe (by the internet).

I guess this brings me to the real question, should I try to use what is there for now, maybe adding a patch more here or there as needed, or is the general rule of thumb -- get the old stuff off and start fresh for your own set up?
 
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Dual lock (from 3M) comes in 3 grades - 170, 250, and 400 - that's how many mushroom heads there are per square inch - a higher number means more gripping force between halves of the plastic. They are interoperabie - you can use different numbered ones with each other. The Godlyke stuff is essentially 3m 400. The problem with the Godlyke or 3m 400 on both surfaces (board and pedal) is that it grips so tight that sometimes the plastic part is stronger than the adhesive - it'll pull off the pedal or board.

I use 3m 250 on my pedalboards and most of my pedals - nice and secure, but it will pull off where and when you want it to. I use Godlyke 400 on just the pedal side of mini pedals (which adheres just fine to the 3M 250 on the board) - they're so small that you get just one thin strip, and sideways torques can challenge things if it's 250 on both mini pedal and the board - the 400/Godlyke makes the bond a bit better.
 
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joel the bass player said:
If it were me I'd start from scratch, just to be as clean as possible. If the stuff on the board was full strips accross it would be different, but I doubt the random patches are going to be great at securing another persons stuff.
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I realize you were not advocating that I replace what is there with full strips of Dual Lock across the board, but would you?

It seems like that would be an easy way for me to test out pedals in different positions and rearrange etc. as I continue to expand my collection. But maybe there is a reason people do not do that. I have not seen enough pedal boards to know.

Then again, maybe it is way less of a hassle that I have imagined to cut out the small patches and adjust when it the time(s) come.

thanks, E
 
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I have done two Temple boards now with dual lock and I just have squares cut. It is a bit tedious but looks cleaner in the end.

On the Pedaltrain boards I've had before I just used their velcro, and it is way easier moving stuff around on there. Even the power supply on my first board had just the regular stuff on it. I never really had trouble with stuff staying put either, dual lock on the new boards were just because I wanted to try it out.

I've seen strips of dual lock before, it is an option, maybe more expensive?
 
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I prefer dual-lock in patches, usually 4X 0.5sq/in squares per standard sized pedal or a 3/8" strip across the narrowest span edges. I pull all of the wee rubber feets and the entire rubber pad on Boss pedals for the lowest installed profile. The open area between the patches allows for a spudge/plastic pry tool if things are too settled to rock the pedal off by hand.

If my swap out does not match the board patches closely enough for my scrutinous eye, they are removed and replaced with fresh synthetic mushroom carpets.
 
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Start over. Use a plastic credit card and mineral spirits to remove the old adhesive. Buy a 15ft roll of industrial strength Velcro from the hardware store. Stick a roll of carpet side velceo along each row of your pedalboard. Stick small strips of Velcro hook side on each pedal that can be removed later when your ready to sell.
 
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I use 3M Dual Lock 250/250, and prefer to put strips all the way across my pedalboard (widths may vary, depending on which section of the board), then two strips on each pedal, top and bottom. Even a mini pedal will have about 3 sq in of Dual Lock, two strips 1" x ~1.5". It's expensive, but worth it, to me. If I need to reposition a pedal, I use a small Stanley pry bar to disengage the pedal.

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Sometimes, if the board warrants it, I'll stick individual pads down. They can always be peeled up and replaced later. In this case, the Simplifier Bass Station has a single short strip under the top, and the Sonic Blue Twanger has two individual strips.

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Cleaned the old stuff off — with an old credit card @G.Bisson and ordered a roll of dual lock.

But really want to show the band my new score tonight at rehearsal so … here in Idaho we have basements full of zip ties.

I know, it is hardly a proper pedal board. I have an hpf coming, an old vista fire MDX digital delay that I am not sure is going on because I haven’t figured out how to use it in 30 years, and then … I got to save up some scratch.
 
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Enrique M said:
Are you camp Dual Lock all the way across the board or in patches?
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I put it all the way across the board.

If you want to swap out pedals a lot, I wouldn't recommend it. It is a PITA to remove a pedal -- you have to be determined and patient, and you need at least one screwdriver (if you're lucky) to get enough leverage to get a pedal off the board. Your hands won't be strong enough by themselves.

That said, I absolutely love having my pedals mounted with it. I've seen a guitar player have a gig-day disaster while setting up, when his pedal board tipped and all the cheap velcro on his pedal board gave out, and his pedals went everywhere. That won't ever happen to me.
 
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I don’t understand the need for the click bait title :rollno:

As already said by others, Dual Lock is the way to go.. a little goes a long way, I don’t use full strips because it’s difficult to remove pedals with that much gripping force.
 
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