Zoom B3. MS-60B, B1on USB control

Which Zoom pedal(s) would you want this controller to work with?

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As a B3/B1Xon/G5n owner, I don't think that the G5n in its initial configuration is going to pose much of a threat to your efforts here. I've posted a lot on another thread about what is to like and not like about the G5n. Long story short, it would appear that ZOOM will have difficulty porting over many of the effects that are staple items in the G3/B3 vintage pedals, so if you're in love with a G3/B3 effect, it is pure speculation as to whether it will be re-coded to work on the G5n. This is not to say that it can't or won't happen, but I think it is not on their immediate radar.

I will say that the G5n does show some appeal for a specific type of guitarist or bassist. I personally like that it isn't bogged down in deep menus and overly technical ancillary items. I have other gear that serves that need (AxeFxII). It is dead simple easy to use and program, and the logic and layout of the pedals seems to be a big step forward - and it should be - compared to G3/B3 era pedals. For me, perfect for live use as a virtual stomp multi-fx in front of my amp. Two words to describe: simple, different.

Will be watching to see how this endeavor turns out. Good luck!
 
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jimfist said:
As a B3/B1Xon/G5n owner, I don't think that the G5n in its initial configuration is going to pose much of a threat to your efforts here. I've posted a lot on another thread about what is to like and not like about the G5n. Long story short, it would appear that ZOOM will have difficulty porting over many of the effects that are staple items in the G3/B3 vintage pedals, so if you're in love with a G3/B3 effect, it is pure speculation as to whether it will be re-coded to work on the G5n. This is not to say that it can't or won't happen, but I think it is not on their immediate radar.

I will say that the G5n does show some appeal for a specific type of guitarist or bassist. I personally like that it isn't bogged down in deep menus and overly technical ancillary items. I have other gear that serves that need (AxeFxII). It is dead simple easy to use and program, and the logic and layout of the pedals seems to be a big step forward - and it should be - compared to G3/B3 era pedals. For me, perfect for live use as a virtual stomp multi-fx in front of my amp. Two words to describe: simple, different.

Will be watching to see how this endeavor turns out. Good luck!
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Thanks jimfist. Your review in the other thread is interesting (and your comments above.) What I'm trying to do is make the "old" Zoom pedals much easier to use and program, while increasing their flexibility. As you say, somewhat different approach from the G5n.
 
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crazyBassClown said:
This looks awesome, any further details or updates?
I'd love one of these but guess it would work out too expensive.
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It IS awesome!
I held off while the G5n dust settled. I've just picked it up again, and now I'm looking at ways of reducing cost -maybe by interfacing to an android/ios device for display. That will need some rework.
It won't be too expensive. I hope.
 
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@drdashdot
First of all, thanks again for the librarian program, that has made the zoom pedals much much more attractive. I have the ms60b and found my old posts about the broken b1on (which I did throw out), thinking about another one. But I saw your posts about a controller, the one in the YouTube videos looks amazing .

It also got me thinking though and I realized I may already have a working setup, in a sense, and it turns out I do. I have an irig blueboard that I bought late last year because I was using my iPad and either amplitube or tonestack as my effects processor. But I decided that I'd rather go hardware and hence the ms60b. Well, irig blueboard, irig blueboard app and midibridge app, along with a USB hub (does not need to be powered, the unpowered hub just fools the iPad into userstanding that the zoom doesn't need more power than iPad can give), and blueboard now controls the patch changes directly. Initially I couldn't get it to display patch names but I wasn't going into memory mode correctly. Now it does display patch names. My iPad is always on the gig with me for controlling my in ear mix and using forscore, so this is a good solution for now. Thanks for the idea!!

I'm torn between selling the ms60b and my vt bass to get a b3n when it comes out or just using this setup for a while (that will probably win), or going to b1on, which has the advantage of the trichorus model. That would be cool for my bass microsynth, as I'm currently using the detune chorus on the ms60b to simulate detuner oscillators.

With a blizzard currently starting here, we all have off from work, school, etc tomorrow so I may make a video or two.
 
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@drdashdot I'm really digging what I've seen so far! Just stumbled on all this. The one complaint (f you could call it at this price point) I've had with my ms60b is the lack of expression out. For me at least the MS series has basically never left my board and been the Swiss army knife (with amazing tone and sound quality) of modulation and utility. I feel that on big or small boards it's so useful to be able to dial up just about any effect and not have it take up valuable real estate like the full size one's.

I digress...

So just to clarify what I think I've read and seen over the various forums is that you've been working on a hardware controller that can switch between set patches on the MS series and allow expression pedal capabilities for effect parameters?

For the love of all that is holy, please tell me you've been able to crack the code and find a way for it to work...either way, thank you for your efforts!
 
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Novarocker said:
@drdashdot I'm really digging what I've seen so far! Just stumbled on all this. The one complaint (f you could call it at this price point) I've had with my ms60b is the lack of expression out. For me at least the MS series has basically never left my board and been the Swiss army knife (with amazing tone and sound quality) of modulation and utility. I feel that on big or small boards it's so useful to be able to dial up just about any effect and not have it take up valuable real estate like the full size one's.

I digress...

So just to clarify what I think I've read and seen over the various forums is that you've been working on a hardware controller that can switch between set patches on the MS series and allow expression pedal capabilities for effect parameters?

For the love of all that is holy, please tell me you've been able to crack the code and find a way for it to work...either way, thank you for your efforts!
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Hello Novarocker. Sorry for the delay - not keeping you in suspense, just snowed under.
Yes, I have cracked the code - as far as i think it can be.
Yes, it can switch between patches and use expression pedals to control effect parameters.
It can do that for multiple pedals.

I'll be back to add some more detail soon...

Cheers
Dave
 
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drdashdot said:
Hello Novarocker. Sorry for the delay - not keeping you in suspense, just snowed under.
Yes, I have cracked the code - as far as i think it can be.
Yes, it can switch between patches and use expression pedals to control effect parameters.
It can do that for multiple pedals.

I'll be back to add some more detail soon...

Cheers
Dave
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No worries Dave, and thanks! That's exciting to hear! I look forward to hearing more, but no rush hahaha.
 
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