I feel the same way about Peavey, at least their bass amps/cabs.
Let's all talk about what we don't like & get the thread closed down.
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I feel the same way about Peavey, at least their bass amps/cabs.
Let's all talk about what we don't like & get the thread closed down.
You notice I didnt have any jabs at anyone for their gear choices, just a statement that my gear choices are based on what I like with out financial restrictions. I doubled down by saying that is my preference.
IMO the best match to an existing cab is an identical one. If you're not happy with the sound of it on its own, then you should be selling it and finding one that does suit you.
The last half of that comment was meant specifically for one person who (makes the ignore feature great) goes out of their way to be as flamboyant as possible while bashing everything that isn't a certain brand every time the chance arises. Not the general public simply because we may have different opinions.
I get why people don't like their stuff. Its ugly, the honk sound. Rat fur covering, its more expensive than some other brands, that **** yellow. For me, combined with my other gear, playing styles and tone I'm trying to achieve it works well. My main amp is an LM3, but all of my cabs I've designed and built my self. I just happen to really like the results I get with B&C and have used their speakers exclusively for the past few years. They happen to be who makes the speakers for MarkBass.
If you or any one else doesn't like it, that's cool too. We as Bass player have so many options now with gear its unreal. Like very subtle differences with certain strings that can only real be detected in an in person A/B comparison, there are cabs and amps for every spot along the tonal spectrum.
Turn it so the speakers are vertical, it takes up less floor space and will be tall enough to be used as a side table while you are in the chair. Put a few books on it.
I think there is a conversation going on in this thread between me, and some others that have either blocked you, or you have blocked.
That's exactly what I've done, and exactly how I intended to use it when I bought it. The H&K amp sits perfectly on the end of it. I won't put books on the cabinet, since I can put my amp there.
Right now the amp is turned to the side of the cab, instead of the front & the speakers are aiming straight into the leg of my desk, but it still sounds pretty great, despite what the MB haters will say.
Yep,they do.
The bottom is a MB Traveller 1-12,the "cab" on top is my cmd121p 1-12 combo. Each cab is under 30 pounds,rated at 400 watts apiece,and capable of filling smaller clubs and outdoor gigs alike.
Hmm, the frequency response of the 102P goes up to 20 kHz, so it's perfectly fine for guitar.
I could understand why you might think it's no good for guitar, since I'm noticing other bass cabinets seem to cut their frequency response at 4 or 5 kHz.
I didn't just buy the first cabinet I came across. I bought it for a specific reason, because it works well with guitar & bass.
Man, nothing like using a cab like that for drop what ever tuning!
that is because of the horn only and I actually don't believe that figure. I've heard that cabinet, and while it doesn't suck totally, I'd dump it and move on. It's not good for guitar. It's not good for bass. It's just no good. You need a guitar cab, and a bass cab, and that's all there is to it. Try picking good ones this time!
The normal reason for adding another cab to a 210 is to make it louder.
What is your motivation?
What is your motivation?
You are looking too much at numbers. All other guitar players get great highs from them, and them 12's in the fender twin reverbs, or the Marshal and Orange cabs the metal guys use all have ear bleeding highs.
The tweeters in bass cabs do not handle distortion very well, they can sound terrible and can blow pretty easily.
They do not need much to be loud. 50-100 watts with a guitar is brutal volume, while with a bass it is a bedroom amp.
Bring your guitar and tube amp to Guitar Center and try out some guitar cabs with it. See how you like them.
I replaced the piezo tweeter in my Markbass cab with a horn tweeter. Yes, they get great highs from speakers that are designed to operate within a range up to 5 kHz, which is why I'm saying a bass cabinet fits for guitar as well.
IIRC, the local GC has almost exclusively combo amps for guitar. The Sam Ash has some Aguilar & GK cabs.
I guess my problem is that I want another cabinet that I can use for both bass & guitar & then make up my mind later which head I'll pair with which cab.
Obviously if I got a 112 guitar cab that's only rated for 50-70 watts, I'd pair it with my H&K.
I'd like to put my Tone Hammer onto a 112 rated for 200 watts at 8 Ohms, or maybe even another 210.
IIRC, the local GC has almost exclusively combo amps for guitar. The Sam Ash has some Aguilar & GK cabs.
I guess my problem is that I want another cabinet that I can use for both bass & guitar & then make up my mind later which head I'll pair with which cab.
Obviously if I got a 112 guitar cab that's only rated for 50-70 watts, I'd pair it with my H&K.
I'd like to put my Tone Hammer onto a 112 rated for 200 watts at 8 Ohms, or maybe even another 210.
Another 210 or 15 would be a better match than a 112 would be volume and power wise to your existing 210. I think two 112's is often a better set up. lighter carry for low volume needs and 2 is very manageable and should be enough stage volume or enough to cover a lot of small-mid sized rooms without PA.
Unfortunately, if you decide to go that route you have to start over in the cab department. IMO the Tone Hammer's go good with MB cabs, and according to other reviews, another inexpensive DIY design. Totally get it if that its not an option though.
When I look at the price, weight, volume needs and overall tonal goals, building a guitar cab or looking for a killer deal is what comes to mind. Not to say Bass cabs can't do both, I've built some that went higher and lower than a lot of PAs. Ive just gotten accustomed to having a small set up at home that I never have to unplug or move or mess with. Just flip the switch and play.
Unfortunately, if you decide to go that route you have to start over in the cab department. IMO the Tone Hammer's go good with MB cabs, and according to other reviews, another inexpensive DIY design. Totally get it if that its not an option though.
When I look at the price, weight, volume needs and overall tonal goals, building a guitar cab or looking for a killer deal is what comes to mind. Not to say Bass cabs can't do both, I've built some that went higher and lower than a lot of PAs. Ive just gotten accustomed to having a small set up at home that I never have to unplug or move or mess with. Just flip the switch and play.
12's are the new 15's.
12's are becoming popular. They're evolving into light, powerful, deep cabs that are modular and very transportable, light, and efficient. I'm a convert, if you couldn't tell.... 
Edit: After re-reading the thread, I got to wondering-- why not just buy another Markbass 210 cab? That would give you modularity and the potential to pump a LOT of power and thump.
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Your hearing is pretty well shot beyond 5kHz, going by the debacle of demo posting a few months back which had you spitting the dummy when the mildly overdriven bass you thought you were posting was actually a wasp in can.
It is what it is, and very lamentable, but should be acknowledged so your comments can be interpreted by those trying to help.
It is what it is, and very lamentable, but should be acknowledged so your comments can be interpreted by those trying to help.
Thanks for reminding me never to post any audio or video again. It's great that some people have such fabulous memories.
I wish there was a delete button for this whole thread.
I've had a hearing test since that & even posted the results.
I just have different taste in what "a little overdrive" is.
I wish there was a delete button for this whole thread.
I've had a hearing test since that & even posted the results.
I just have different taste in what "a little overdrive" is.
The reason why some bass cabs are not suitable for guitar is that their is a big response hole between the woofer and the tweeter, right where the guitar output is most important. This is the case with your markbass cab.
5khz is more than enough response for guitar, and is actually a lot higher than what most bass woofers will do. Also, you dont need the power handling in a guitar cab, as it requires a lot less power to get loud in the range guitar operates. This is why a 100 watt amp and a 212 is more than gig worthy.