Anyone stopped using a HPF in their signal chain?

[MultiScaleMale]

I'm debating selling my *separate* F-deck because my HX Stomp has adjustable hpf built in, and it seems to work at least 95% as well. Same with its built-in tuner... this thing is slowly replacing several separates. But I'm one of many here who not long ago wasn't aware what HPF was or its importance, and now can't imagine going without in one form or another.

I said “screw it” and went HX Stomp and Noble DI. Period. I haven’t sold everything else yet, that will be a task for 2020.

 

[aproud1]

I have the exact same "always on" HPF. Primarily it allows me to boost the lows with my active basses' onboard preamp while keeping a tight bottom end adding noticeable punchiness to the tone. So far it saved me once at a live gig where the room acoustics were causing too much boominess, and the sound guy was turning me down to nothing to compensate. I adjusted the HPF to a higher frequency and was able to crank my volume without consequence.

Was told this is a mastering trick to get great sounding bass in a recording mix. I'm definitely a believer.

I bought one when I was playing on an SWR and it was great for that amp. Switched to an older Trace Elliot with a 30Hz fader on the onboard graphic which I cut 3-6dB. Using this technique, there's no noticeable difference whether my Broughton Always on is in the signal or not, but sound guys seem to appreciate it. While there's no marking on the pedal itself, I would set it to where the low B had the same volume as the other open strings and let it filter out any rumble.

The low end of various basses seem to really clean up with an HPF. SOme of mine sound so different I don't think I woudl keep the basses if I didn't have these pedals.

I have and its for a dumb reason. I got an Fdeck battery-only model. I love what it does but it absolutely chews through batteries.

Bet you could mod it to take a regulated 9 volt power supply?

Never really felt the need for one. But I’m not one to use eq really. I’m kind of a set everything flat and and go kind of player. I also use cabs that don’t have a ton of low frequency extension.

I played a Bergantino HG310 for a while and could definitely get away with no HPF on that cab.

 

[two fingers]

Broughton Always On for me. It's not going anywhere. It's a ridiculously valuable tool. If you use your ears, and not your eyes, you can dial in a tone (with your EQ as well, of course) that will still be fat, but cut through a mix like crazy.

 

[InhumanResource]

Was told this is a mastering trick to get great sounding bass in a recording mix. I'm definitely a believer.



The low end of various basses seem to really clean up with an HPF. SOme of mine sound so different I don't think I woudl keep the basses if I didn't have these pedals.



Bet you could mod it to take a regulated 9 volt power supply?



I played a Bergantino HG310 for a while and could definitely get away with no HPF on that cab.

I'd like to! I bought a cheap 9v battery lug to AC power supply converter but it does not work. Never researched to see if I could just clip the battery leads and wire to a socket/input safely. I can solder but engineer I am not.

 

[aproud1]

I'd like to! I bought a cheap 9v battery lug to AC power supply converter but it does not work. Never researched to see if I could just clip the battery leads and wire to a socket/input safely. I can solder but engineer I am not.

This should get you there.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...HRTnGKJtDkoX9LSTTXBoCw5gQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...wFhnBCeCsV042Hd-tXhoCczUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Frodolicious]

I primarily play my jazz bass, so low end mud has not generally been a problem with me.

I have encountered really boomy rooms, but I just lower the neck pickup volume a tad, and does help a lot!

 

[InhumanResource]

This should get you there.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1Spot9v--truetone-1-spot-slim-9v-dc-adapter?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3308753207&product_id=1Spot9v&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20SKU%20-%20Guitars&adgroup=Guitar%20Pedals%20&%20Effects%20-%20Truetone%20-%201spot9v&placement=google&creative=290335234991&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAlajvBRB_EiwA4vAqiFjsYrePZOj6-tSEYB79FlWWTohxcXjl9iwHRTnGKJtDkoX9LSTTXBoCw5gQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1SpotCBAT--truetone-1-spot-battery-clip-converter?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3360584892&product_id=1SpotCBAT&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20SKU%20-%20Live%20Sound%20&%20Lighting&adgroup=Live%20Sound%20Accessories%20-%20Truetone%20-%201spotcbat&placement=google&creative=393031348071&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAlajvBRB_EiwA4vAqiLywDmUAWPVmQGjk6kJyaCdvuELR7E3hYntwFhnBCeCsV042Hd-tXhoCczUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks! I bought something similar but it didn't work. Maybe this is better.

 

[aproud1]

Thanks! I bought something similar but it didn't work. Maybe this is better.

You could PM @fdeck he could tell you for sure.

 

[fdeck]

This should get you there.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1Spot9v--truetone-1-spot-slim-9v-dc-adapter?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3308753207&product_id=1Spot9v&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20SKU%20-%20Guitars&adgroup=Guitar%20Pedals%20&%20Effects%20-%20Truetone%20-%201spot9v&placement=google&creative=290335234991&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAlajvBRB_EiwA4vAqiFjsYrePZOj6-tSEYB79FlWWTohxcXjl9iwHRTnGKJtDkoX9LSTTXBoCw5gQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1SpotCBAT--truetone-1-spot-battery-clip-converter?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3360584892&product_id=1SpotCBAT&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20SKU%20-%20Live%20Sound%20&%20Lighting&adgroup=Live%20Sound%20Accessories%20-%20Truetone%20-%201spotcbat&placement=google&creative=393031348071&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAlajvBRB_EiwA4vAqiLywDmUAWPVmQGjk6kJyaCdvuELR7E3hYntwFhnBCeCsV042Hd-tXhoCczUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks for the mention. Here's what I know. The Series 1, 2, and 2M preamps all use the same basic Class-A preamp circuit, and it works poorly with AC adapters. The reason is that any amount of noise on the power supply line will be coupled quite effectively into the audio signal. That will be either 60 Hz "hum" for conventional power supplies, or a kind of scratchy hiss with switchmode power supplies such as the 1Shot. I've tested it!

This is one of the reasons why I switched to an op amp circuit for the Series 3. Other reasons were complexity and sensitivity to component variations. But as it stands, only the Series 3 can use a wall wart. When the power supply is plugged in, the battery is disconnected, and you can even leave it out of there.

 

[logdrum]

In analog synthesis, you need to understand LPF, HPF, Bandpass, Notch and Peaking Filters. But in bass amplification, I have just been aware not to crank the bass knob or ask the PA guy to use the low shelf or rumble filter in the mixer. I do feel it's a little bit over the top here. I still haven't bought a pedal version and some of my amps have it, some have none. Those that do not have just cut the bass to the room and so not use boomy cabs.

 

[gitfiddl]

Maybe it's just semantics and I am all wrong in my thinking, but it's my understanding that an HPF (depending on the slope) actually removes frequencies below a certain point, whereas most EQs just reduce those frequencies.

 

[aproud1]

Thanks for the mention. Here's what I know. The Series 1, 2, and 2M preamps all use the same basic Class-A preamp circuit, and it works poorly with AC adapters. The reason is that any amount of noise on the power supply line will be coupled quite effectively into the audio signal. That will be either 60 Hz "hum" for conventional power supplies, or a kind of scratchy hiss with switchmode power supplies such as the 1Shot. I've tested it!

This is one of the reasons why I switched to an op amp circuit for the Series 3. Other reasons were complexity and sensitivity to component variations. But as it stands, only the Series 3 can use a wall wart. When the power supply is plugged in, the battery is disconnected, and you can even leave it out of there.

thanks for the detail! Guess now we know.

 

[richntiff]

I had the Broughton HPF - switchable model. Really dug it, felt it enhanced my tone noticeably. Just.... cleaner and tighter. Kind of forgot how much I liked it, so I sold it. Then missed it. Found a good deal on the Broughton always on HPF and I might as well weld it to my board. It’s not going anywhere. The more I experiment with pedals, the more convinced I become that ‘utility pedals’ like a HPF and a good pre/di are all I’ll ever need.

 

[aproud1]

I had the Broughton HPF - switchable model. Really dug it, felt it enhanced my tone noticeably. Just.... cleaner and tighter. Kind of forgot how much I liked it, so I sold it. Then missed it. Found a good deal on the Broughton always on HPF and I might as well weld it to my board. It’s not going anywhere. The more I experiment with pedals, the more convinced I become that ‘utility pedals’ like a HPF and a good pre/di are all I’ll ever need.

Been looking at Pre/DI's myself. What did you end up with? The Broughton Messenger and Tech21 Q-Strip are tops in my current search.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Sadly, HPFs are probably the least understood thing in bassdom, hence ignored by the masses.

 

[GrapeBass]

Sadly, HPFs are probably the least understood thing in bassdom, hence ignored by the masses.

shhh, it's our little secret.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Maybe it's just semantics and I am all wrong in my thinking, but it's my understanding that an HPF (depending on the slope) actually removes frequencies below a certain point, whereas most EQs just reduce those frequencies.

 

[richntiff]

Been looking at Pre/DI's myself. What did you end up with? The Broughton Messenger and Tech21 Q-Strip are tops in my current search.

I’ve tried most of the popular ones and I keep coming back to the Ampeg SCR-DI. Sure it has a baked in tone - but it’s a GREAT baked in tone lol! The two I have not tried but want to are the LeBass and the SV-Pre

 

[catcauphonic]

Not only have I not stopped, but I just bought a 2nd one for another board

 

[4Mal]

sold my hpf/lpf - realized I could get almost the same result with a source audio Prog eq. now I use the variable hpf in a Mesa Subway D-800+ So yes? no? kinda ? I dunno, what was the question again ?