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Grab another gear, people!!!
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Mike, where exactly is that DDI
being placed?
We think Seattle is thick now (and it is), just wait till that 99viaduct comes down, and the tunnel replaces it
Mike, where exactly is that DDI
being placed?
We think Seattle is thick now (and it is), just wait till that 99viaduct comes down, and the tunnel replaces it
Exit 111 off I-5, Marvin Road.
-Mike
No wonder you're always in a rush, you don't know how to get around. Above the mason-Dixon line is Pennsylvania BELOW the M-D is Maryland.
For the record I retired 25 years ago; I'm not in a rush to get anywhere. I drive how I please. I will stay out of high traffic areas like doorways and the head of escalators though.
If you are in the way in traffic you would be the exception rather than the rule in PA.
My first wife was from Lancaster. I did a few gigs with her uncles around the area. Driving up there was a breeze because everyone going slow stayed to the right out of the way... even the horse buggies. Left lane was only for passing.
Now, if one is emotionally and/or mentally incapable of driving the speed limit, then perhaps one shouldn't drive.
One thing I noticed in Germany which the US could take a clue from....the roundabouts don't have curbs on the inner side. The center island is flat with the road surface, so trucks can navigate the roundabout and let the inner tires traverse part of the island without bashing tires into a curb. Makes sense, as that way the roundabout doesn't have to be enormous to let them make the circle, they don't have to slow down and maneuver as much, and it harms nothing.
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While I agree with, what I think is anyway, your sentiment here, those are not the only reasons people don't drive up to the legal max speed. A lot of people that do hypermiling, and also a lot of people driving EVs don't - it gets much better gas milage (or range in an EV) to not (every 5 mph is a massive change in a vehicle's drag through air), just as two very relevant examples. But if someone is truly scared to go 55/60/65 or whatever, they should either avoid those roads or probably all of them, yes.
I dated a woman from Nigeria who avoided freeways because she was afraid of them. One of the reasons I dumped her was, she always tried to tell me how to drive.
"Why are you in this lane? You will need to be in that lane." Yes. Eventually. After I pass the long line of dawdlers.
How can a woman who is afraid to drive on a freeway think she knows more than anyone on how to drive? Someone in front of me would do something perfectly legal and she would rant, "and this FOOL..." about nothing.
If you get a speeding ticket in my state with my insurance, your rates go up for three years. You are now considered a high risk driver. No matter how you do the math, it is a chunk of change. Ask yourself, is it worth it?
I typically drive 3 to 4 mph over the speed limit, in an effort to go with the flow of traffic. Yet, I still have vehicles stacking up behind me, tailgating, making aggressive and unsafe passes, etc. At what point will my driving (at least near legal speeds), not piss you off?
My commute home from work is through 'urban sprawl' for a good stretch, a popular arterial with plenty of traffic lights. Racing to the next red light does nothing but sell extra fuel and extra brake jobs. Trying to make others get out of your way? You are herding cats by holding their tails, good luck.
Yes, I'm that guy... note, your urgency and stress will only accelerate the early demise of your body and soul. Mellow out, you'll get there.
I typically drive 3 to 4 mph over the speed limit, in an effort to go with the flow of traffic. Yet, I still have vehicles stacking up behind me, tailgating, making aggressive and unsafe passes, etc. At what point will my driving (at least near legal speeds), not piss you off?
My commute home from work is through 'urban sprawl' for a good stretch, a popular arterial with plenty of traffic lights. Racing to the next red light does nothing but sell extra fuel and extra brake jobs. Trying to make others get out of your way? You are herding cats by holding their tails, good luck.
Yes, I'm that guy... note, your urgency and stress will only accelerate the early demise of your body and soul. Mellow out, you'll get there.
That's 100% fine and acceptable. If you're going the speed limit, what's the problem? I'm pretty sure the original post makes mention of people going 30 mph in a 45 mph zone. Yes, going even slightly above the speed limit, there will be drivers who want to go faster, but those types of drivers don't want to go faster at a specific speed. They just want to be faster then everyone else. It doesn't matter if you're going 45 mph in a 45 mph zone or 70 in a 45 mph zone. Those people are unaware drivers.
So you're not that guy. You're just reading the title, skimming the topic, and taking offense at being called slow when you didn't even bother to process the information you read first.
GBBSBassist - I read every word of this thread. One cannot please every driver on the road, nor can one please every member of this forum, you have just illustrated this perfectly.
I'm cool with what you describe @Chad Michael for the most part, not that making sure I am cool with your driving is a priority for you. 
When you are doing 3-4MPH over the speed limit, is that in the passing lane?
-Mike
When you are doing 3-4MPH over the speed limit, is that in the passing lane?
-Mike
Man...this one grinds my gears, even when I'm on the receiving end of that right of way when I don't have it. I can't even count the times I've been waiting to make a left turn out of a business and then the schmo making a left turn into the parking lot that I'm exiting waves me out in front of him, as if he's doing me a huge favor. Even if someone does that to a car in front of me, it's not the time lost that bothers me. It's the ignorance of right of way in general.
Right of way is the way it is for a reason. It's so that it's second nature to drivers to know which drivers go in which order. When specific individuals change that order on a whim, they're idiots if they assume all other drivers in their vicinity know what they're up to.
Are you absolutely sure about that one? Because what you're posting is like saying "OH YEAH I HATE APPLES TOO" if the original post was an "I hate tomatoes" thread. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but what I'm getting from your posts is that you're truly not understanding what TwoFingers is complaining about.
In any lane. BTW - I typically stay right unless I am passing… however... at 'in town ' (35 mph) speeds, it's different:
When there are two lanes available, I will stay to the right, unless I am going through the congested part of the neighborhood - strip malls, grocery stores, convenience stores, etc. nearly everyone is tying to make a right turn into a business, or get back onto the road from the same business. Traffic flows better with less vehicles in the right lane. I will run in the left lane, even if someone behind me wants to go faster. I have been doing this longer than they have and I guarantee my method works better.
GBBSbassist - the original post, in my humble estimation, is that someone does not like people getting in his or her way. How apples and oranges and fruit has anything to do with this is beyond me.
I make great efforts to stay 'out of the way' of other people, but it is still never enough. Interacting with the public has never been a problem, per say - but interacting with aggressive and impatient drivers is and always will be a challenge. Go ahead and decide which group you and I belong in, but rest assured I will go my pace and let the law correct me.
I make great efforts to stay 'out of the way' of other people, but it is still never enough. Interacting with the public has never been a problem, per say - but interacting with aggressive and impatient drivers is and always will be a challenge. Go ahead and decide which group you and I belong in, but rest assured I will go my pace and let the law correct me.
That makes sense.
I'm curious why you wouldn't move over to the right lane if someone behind you in the left lane wants to move faster.
From another angle, perhaps it is you contributing to the urgency and stress accelerating the demise of their body and soul?
Sure, it's easy to tell someone else to mellow out, but why give them a reason to not be?
I don't want to make it out like I am singling you out though. As you also said, there are just some people you are never not going to piss off. Like my pop said, it does not matter how fast you drive, there is always someone who will want to be going faster.
I've really mellowed out over the years, but it does make me shake my head when someone jumps into a second lane and drives just a couple miles an hour faster to pass someone next to them, ignoring all the people piling up behind them (or maybe fully cognizant but believing those are the people with the problem, not them). Make the pass, get over and out of the way. I'd rather have those hot heads in front of me and gone than behind me irritated.
-Mike
MJ5150, you really would have to experience North Side Spokane 5 mile area, first hand, during evening peak traffic to understand. The right lane is 'very' go stop go stop go stop. Motorists slowing down to turn into a business (of which there are very many). If I travel in the left lane, but move over every time someone wants to go faster than me, I'd make 50 lane changes in two miles. That doesn't contribute to anyone's safety or sanity or legality. Once people do this enough, they might realize you still cannot herd cats by pushing on their tails.... one's progress will never be any faster than the flow of traffic, and I've been doing this thing in this area since '93. People, please just give yourself time to get where you are going, getting all bent out of shape only raises your blood pressure.
All good @Chad Michael. We have lots of what you describe over here in Olympia and Lacey as well. We even have left lanes marked clearly as 'Thru Traffic' for spots that get super congested in the right lane by people turning in and out of shopping centers, etc.
It is a challenge to move in and out of lanes. I prefer to stay in the left lane in situations like you describe. When I see someone rolling up on me and they are in a bigger hurry than I am, I get over at this point in my life. I still may think my driving method is better and more effective than the person behind me, but I will let them decide for themselves the best way to get where they are going.
I don't feel like I am in a position at that point to try and teach someone a lesson on a more effective way to drive that I know about.
-Mike
It is a challenge to move in and out of lanes. I prefer to stay in the left lane in situations like you describe. When I see someone rolling up on me and they are in a bigger hurry than I am, I get over at this point in my life. I still may think my driving method is better and more effective than the person behind me, but I will let them decide for themselves the best way to get where they are going.
I don't feel like I am in a position at that point to try and teach someone a lesson on a more effective way to drive that I know about.
-Mike
All good buddy. The next time you find yourself in my area, hit me up and we'll drive up and down the left lane around town. 
-Mike
-Mike