3-4 sets worth of material is a lot for any one voice to handle regularly. I hated singing lead, but we each had to sing a few tunes to give our vocalist some rest
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Now this is how to find your lead singer...
- Thread starter wisconsindead
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Obviously this is not their first ad and they're tired of the mentioned types responding to a "nice" ad.
- Jun 6, 2012
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I'm so lucky. Our female singer will do male songs and in some cases, make it her own in very cool ways, she has her own mic, she helps schlep the gear, ALWAYS comes to rehearsal, can totally hold her own as "one of the guys" AND she is an excellent singer.
Don't know if I'd go as far as venting on CL, but I DEFINITELY know how the guy feels!
The most replies I ever got to a "looking for a drummer ad" was when I went on a long-ass rant about wanting to play with a drummer that had a steady clock and didn't go off tempo when I purposely played off beat... Auditioned three drummers in four days, one of whom was the best drummer I ever played with. YMMV.
Anyone else think that a woman wrote the ad? Idk why I'm getting the feeling that a woman wrote it...
Yeah.... the issue is not necessarily the points the person makes, but the way he/she makes them.
Just be like "lead singer will be expected to sing all the material we do, whether or not it was sung by a woman originally, as well as owning her own microphone, providing her own transportation, and having a professional attitude."
Just be like "lead singer will be expected to sing all the material we do, whether or not it was sung by a woman originally, as well as owning her own microphone, providing her own transportation, and having a professional attitude."
What a bad way to introduce yourself/the band.
People need to keep their rants off their ads. I don't want to hear about your problems before I even meet you.
This is almost as useless as writing "No Drama". The people who don't want "drama" are usually the biggest culprits.
People need to keep their rants off their ads. I don't want to hear about your problems before I even meet you.
This is almost as useless as writing "No Drama". The people who don't want "drama" are usually the biggest culprits.
You guys don't understand.....
You know how many people he will piss off with the ad? = Doesn't matter
You know many women they need to understand and join their band? = 1
I like the math.
You know how many people he will piss off with the ad? = Doesn't matter
You know many women they need to understand and join their band? = 1
I like the math.
Maybe not very professional, but I can relate.
It seems to be rare to find a quality female singer who is also all musician and realizes that she does not occupy some special territory with different rules. Many who answer ads like that are shower singers or karaoke queens, or have barged their way onto stages to sing "Bobby McGee" but don't know what key its in or even what key is good for them. They don't comprehend the idea of having one's own equipment, having experience utilizing it, mic presence, when to back off the mic and when to get close, comprehension that a song has a structure and you can't just put any part any place and expect the band to follow you, knows that there are SOLOS that need to go into a song whether its arranged or a jam ( i.e., awareness that it's not just about her), is aware that a band is not their personal showcase (unless they really are better than everyone else in the band-- in which case it wouldn't be her answering ads, but musicians answering hers), is able to play at least little on some instrument even if it's not at stage performance skill level, so to have some experience learning about music so that all the terms, jargon etc make sense, that realizes that load ins and load outs mean you too even though you "just sing", willingness to do other stuff like sing backup if needed, and to maybe play a little extra percussion now and again (with some actual musical proficiency-- extra percussion is harder than they generally think). In short, my experience with most (not all by any means) female singers is that the entire experience is all about them. I know it's a small thing, but I kind of don't like it when a singer (usually female) refers to me as "my bass player" even if we've only played together a few times or maybe just this one time (how about "the" bass player, or "our" bass player, or "Ben, on bass" or whatever?) It shows a false sense that the whole thing centers on them.
Then you're bad at math.
Reducing the pool of applicants by being sarcastic and copping an attitude doesn't mean that now the RIGHT singer is going to contact you....it only means you'll have fewer to choose from. It's not like the RIGHT singer would have seen a more positive version of the ad and said "Nah, not going to audition for that one, I'm holding out for a band that complains about 'what women do' and writes ads with some curses in it and spells most of the women's names wrong."
Indeed.
Some people might be very good lead singers who will happily sing the entire set... but decide not to audition because they think the guy sounds like a jerk and they don't want to be in a band with jerks.
A politely worded ad with no ranting, concisely laying out the expectations would work better.
"We need a female lead singer. We play [X] songs of [genre/style/era]. We're looking for someone professional who has her own equipment and transportation, and who can sing the entire set, regardless of whether the songs were originally sung by a woman or a man."
What's so hard about that?
Are you in the same band as me? Almost like we had the same singer.
Just saw through our set list out of curiosity. Over half of the songs we do, is originally sung by a man, and she decides most of the songs we do
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Exactly! The mic is the singer's instrument. Buy it yourself! Would I ask my drummer to buy my bass??? Of course not.