"Official" Carvin and Kiesel Club - Part 3

Im actually thinking of calling and switching to humbuckers now from the singles for a growlier sound

anyone?

My chambered Osiris is 8.8 pounds and my non-chambered Vader is 8.4 pounds. I wish I had weighed my non-chambered Osiris before I returned it but I thought I’d be getting it back.

As for pickups - for years I specifically got their single coils - until I got a used Kiesel with Humbuckers and found I like them more. Growler? I don’t think the soapbars are very growly. But I’d say thicker, and smoother.
 
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Thank you! I always thought the humbuckers had a unique sound from the clips I heard but nothing with a low B growl

Having my old peaveys with VFLS they were super clear and growly

also being active
I know there’s an owner here who put TW pickups in their bass

if your around reading this, why did you ? Was it not the sound in your head or was it not what you thought it would be and made it something else?


I love the Emg J sound personally just curious
 
Hello,
New to the thread. I have been using the Bass Builder for an Icon 6.
Does anybody have tips for which woods will yield a light weight Icon 6 ?
Thanks.

I think Swamp Ash tends to be on the lighter side, as can be mahogany. But as Core Creek said, it can be a crap shoot. There are lighter and heavier examples of everything.

Anyone know how light chambering can make a bass?

If it helps, I have three Icon five strings and they're all pretty comfortable in terms of weight.

Of note is that all three have the wide asymmetrical neck option, so I think that's reasonably close to the width of the standard 6 string neck. Also, I had them select the lightest piece of swamp ash they had in stock at the time of the build ($100 option 50) and it's chambered as well (free 4th of July option at the time). The chambering definitely made a difference in terms of weight... it's the lightest of the three by almost a whole pound.

2014 - 9.2lbs (quilt maple, alder wings, 5pc maple/walnut neck, birdseye board)
2017 - 8.8lbs (flame maple, alder wings, 5pc maple/mahogany neck, royal ebony board)
2019 - 8.4lbs (claro walnut, chambered swamp ash wings, 5pc maple/mahogany neck, roasted birdseye board)

If ounces matter, you could probably also shave some weight by going passive if that's your thing (which I think might have to be an option 50), and get some Hipshot Ultralite tuners.

5sg.

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I really wish I could tell you but it’s always a crap shoot. I have an Icon 6 made of zebra wood and it’s generally light for a bass with a headstock. I purchased it used. I just had an Osiris built that was chambered with an alder body and maple top and that actually came out heavier than I anticipated.

I think the chambered body with alder should work but probably tell your sales rep you want as light as possible. They might charge $100 but it’s probably worth it.
Also went with chambered alder

I better call them….
 
Antique Ash Treatment is always great. It's a classic, at this point!


I think that in general, its tougher to make a light neckthrough. Neckwoods are usually heavy. And a 6 string is a lot of neck.

My Icon 5 is swamp Ash body wings (with gloss AAT), and 5 piece neck (Walnut w/white limba stripes).

It's about 9lbs without a strap. Which I consider pretty good. And light enough for me, someone whom can't handle truly heavy basses.

Walnut and mahogany or Limba, should skew a bit lighter than any other combos. Like Maple, purple heart, Bloodwood, etc.

I would talk to their reps and see what they think.

It may be possible to pay extra to get select, lightweight body wings or neck blank. However, that would likely forfeit the 10-day return window. Which I don't recommend, especially if this is your first Kiesel order.
It is my first but weight is also a huge thing for me


See for me I ordered the B25 based on the colour special imperial but now I also own a Brian Bromberg peavey 5 neck hybrid and a bquad 4

and the 35 inch is awsome for bass
So I’m unsure how neck through 34 inch string through will yield for the b string
 
@Toptube would probably know for sure, but I believe the singles will actually get you more growl. Humbuckers are generally a bit more smooth across the board, in my experience (and not just with Kiesel).

5sg.
@Toptube would probably know for sure, but I believe the singles will actually get you more growl. Humbuckers are generally a bit more smooth across the board, in my experience (and not just with Kiesel).

5sg.
I’ve always found my peavey VFls growly
 
I’m so pumped!!

I have my peavey b quad/ grind 5 hybrid for sale right now…
As well as my atelier z

trying to come up with the money but I didn’t want to miss out

at first I was gonna do pink trans
But then Father’s Day sale came up with imperial trans which looked like a pink purple cross and I jumped lol!


Beautiful! Those Brombergs look really comfortable as well. And his tone is always excellent.

I actually sold my Grind 4 string years ago to fund my first Kiesel.
 
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What strings are those of you with J99s using? I have an LB20 from about 1999 that I absolutely love, but there are some tonal qualities I do not like. In the higher frequencies, I get some annoying (to me) honky "boing boing" noises, and there are some weird muted lower notes I don't like the sound of. I just put on a set of GHS Pressurewounds and was surprised to hear a lot of good things. I've never used anything but roundwounds. They seem to have tamed some of that annoyance on the G string notes and also fixed what I didn't like on some of the E string notes. I'm excited to stay with these for a while and try it out in the band mix. My #1 is my Gibson Thunderbird. This LB20 was my #1 until Gibson put out the first left-handed Thunderbird in 2013.
 
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What strings are those of you with J99s using? I have an LB20 from about 1999 that I absolutely love, but there are some tonal qualities I do not like. In the higher frequencies, I get some annoying (to me) honky "boing boing" noises, and there are some weird muted lower notes I don't like the sound of. I just put on a set of GHS Pressurewounds and was surprised to hear a lot of good things. I've never used anything but roundwounds. They seem to have tamed some of that annoyance on the G string notes and also fixed what I didn't like on some of the E string notes. I'm excited to stay with these for a while and try it out in the band mix. My #1 is my Gibson Thunderbird. This LB20 was my #1 until Gibson put out the first left-handed Thunderbird in 2013.
GHS is a great choice, as the majority of their sets were re-issued as balanced tension as standard.

Because of this, they have been my "go-to" brand for a couple years.
Balanced tension sets up better, feels better, plays better. And therefore, sounds better.

And for roundwounds, I love their round core bass boomers. And consider that an easy recommend.
 
My V5M arrived. Build took about 8 weeks. I’m very happy with it! Great wood & build quality, heavier than I expected for an alder body.

Setup was good with the Dunlop super bright strings, but I prefer flats so I changed them for LaBella Low Tension Flats (love them on my 4-string!). Intonation on the LTF’s required some serious bridge adjustment… barely got there on the B string with the saddle bottomed out… had to remove the spring to get there.

Anybody else use LTF’s on a Kiesel 35-33.5 multi-scale?
 

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My V5M arrived. Build took about 8 weeks. I’m very happy with it! Great wood & build quality, heavier than I expected for an alder body.

Setup was good with the Dunlop super bright strings, but I prefer flats so I changed them for LaBella Low Tension Flats (love them on my 4-string!). Intonation on the LTF’s required some serious bridge adjustment… barely got there on the B string with the saddle bottomed out… had to remove the spring to get there.

Anybody else use LTF’s on a Kiesel 35-33.5 multi-scale?
Successfully resurrected my old TB account, so I’ll post with it.

Here’s a pic of the bridge with LTF’s properly intonated. Check out the B string!
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Cool bridge. Is that made by Hipshot? Looks like their saddles.


Yes, it is made by Hipshot exclusively for Kiesel Headless basses. As someone who owns a Zeus multi scale 4 string (Vanquish MS 4 as well) it's a fantastic bridge and part of a very stable package. I almost never have to adjust the tuners or neck relief. Once I settled on a string type and gauge, the setup has remained for a year and a half. Pretty impressive for New England seasonal changes.
 
Yes, it is made by Hipshot exclusively for Kiesel Headless basses. As someone who owns a Zeus multi scale 4 string (Vanquish MS 4 as well) it's a fantastic bridge and part of a very stable package. I almost never have to adjust the tuners or neck relief. Once I settled on a string type and gauge, the setup has remained for a year and a half. Pretty impressive for New England seasonal changes.
Don’t they all have saddle lock?