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Problem with small cabs on small stages
- Thread starter gtirard
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As for option 2:
20 degrees should be enough unless you are literally standing few inches from cab
Can use Bar Mat or similar to keep head in place at that angle or even sharper if worried
I used that angle before and now with my Mesa WD 800 7lbs and 1X15 Cab Amp hasn't moved a millimeter when playing
20 degrees should be enough unless you are literally standing few inches from cab
Can use Bar Mat or similar to keep head in place at that angle or even sharper if worried
I used that angle before and now with my Mesa WD 800 7lbs and 1X15 Cab Amp hasn't moved a millimeter when playing
#3 all day, every day.
The only time I'd hear 'floor coupling', it would load up the rumbly, 100hz and below, de-horsing everything.
Whenever I could get the cab close to on axis with my ears, I could hear better, and could actually turn down a little.
I hate a little cab on the floor.
The only time I'd hear 'floor coupling', it would load up the rumbly, 100hz and below, de-horsing everything.
Whenever I could get the cab close to on axis with my ears, I could hear better, and could actually turn down a little.
I hate a little cab on the floor.
On case #2 I often put the amp head on the floor or on something else. No biggie, I'd say.
I use this On-Stage unit. It is in the middle between your 2 & 3. The head never falls off the cab as the tilt isn't severe. So, it's never a worry and I can hear myself fine. As an added benefit, it's great on a boomy bandstand.
Stack it on top of another cab. Y’all make this seem so complicated.
It isn't complicated at all. I am not the least bit interested in carrying anything more than my 22 lb. 112 combo. And I don't even want to carry that. A bad back, couple of separated shoulders, tendinitis, etc., old age and not wanting to be loud kind of changed my approach to gigs and gear.
Another cab? Kind of defeats the purpose of a lightweight combo.
My solution:
One stand, no moving parts or stuff to lose, and it can tilt a speaker ( I have two sizes of cabs, it works with either) either 35 or 55 degrees by turning the stand around.
I used to play a "coffee house" vibe gig, and I had to play with a harp. The trick is, if you drown out the harp, you are evil incarnate, so you gotta hear yourself at really low level. The gig was seated, and this was in front of me, with my amp head on a chair next to mine. It'll also work on a louder gig; I just bring the bigger cab.
Amps are designed wrong for today's world - they should be pointed at our ears, not the backs of our legs. In the 60's, when your amp was what the audience heard, the architecture that amps still have made sense, but now that we have very capable PA's, our amps should be our monitors at most. All my gigs are now ampless (the coffee house gig is no longer), so even this is overkill for my needs.
One stand, no moving parts or stuff to lose, and it can tilt a speaker ( I have two sizes of cabs, it works with either) either 35 or 55 degrees by turning the stand around.
I used to play a "coffee house" vibe gig, and I had to play with a harp. The trick is, if you drown out the harp, you are evil incarnate, so you gotta hear yourself at really low level. The gig was seated, and this was in front of me, with my amp head on a chair next to mine. It'll also work on a louder gig; I just bring the bigger cab.
Amps are designed wrong for today's world - they should be pointed at our ears, not the backs of our legs. In the 60's, when your amp was what the audience heard, the architecture that amps still have made sense, but now that we have very capable PA's, our amps should be our monitors at most. All my gigs are now ampless (the coffee house gig is no longer), so even this is overkill for my needs.
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Your gig, your rig. But there's more to rock'n'roll than telling people how much your stuff weighs.
If you're concerned a head might fall off a tilted cab put the head next to the cab.
Hey, I'm just 45+ year novice, so I guess I'm the last person to ask how to deal with the OP's original question.
I usually just go ahead & listen with my ankles. 
If it's really that small of a space, the room should bounce back what I need. (If I can't hear myself at all, everyone else is probably too loud.)
I have once or twice deployed the old milk crate as a riser.
If it's really that small of a space, the room should bounce back what I need. (If I can't hear myself at all, everyone else is probably too loud.)
I have once or twice deployed the old milk crate as a riser.
For small venues, I use a chair. I do have an amp stand by my Eden EX112 cab is only 15¼" wide and would just barely rest against the back struts so I just put it on a chair and put my amp shoulder bag and my gig bag under it. Most 112's are a little wider than this but they should still sit in a chair just fine.
Here's a shot of the stage in the brewpub where we used to host Open Mic Nights on over 40 Fridays per year. We couldn't quite stuff all 5 of us on the stage so one of the guitarist (Steve) was on the floor next to the stage.
I do use an amp stand with my DNS-210 cab though and run my DNA800 amp into that.
All my small cabs (EA Whizzy M-Line) have tilt options. Velcro can hold most Class D amps or a bungee anchored at the side handles
I use a tilt-stand every once in a while with my grbass 112. Coupling effects don't really bother me when there's sufficient PA. On the other hand: when there's sufficient monitoring I don't have to tilt my cab!
How about a cable long enough to sit the amp on the floor under the front of the cab on the stand.
