Rickenbacker guitars blocked me on FB lol

[40Hz]

If I had a business Facebook page, and someone put something on it that I felt was derogatory and untrue, I would delete as well.

There’s a difference between criticism and a derogatory remark. Something Rickenbacker and its minions never seem to grasp. It’s a “love everything we do or get lost” mindset. The word for that is “insular.”

Oh well. No good deed goes unpunished as the saying goes. Rickenbacker is what it is. And it’s not like anybody doesn’t know that already.

 

[lfmn16]

Well, actually, I do. And I’m not surprised at what happened to the OP, either. It’s still a textbook case on what not to do on your Facebook page, though.

Well I'm certainly not an apologist for John Hall or Rickenbacker, but I'm at a loss regarding what the OP thought he was going to accomplish. A stranger on the internet with no validated credentials posts that the company's 'experts' are doing something all wrong; on the page of a company known for not taking kindly to criticism. He thought this was going to turn out well? Sometimes you just have to use a little common sense - which is becoming more uncommon all the time.

 

[buldog5151bass]

There’s a difference between criticism and a derogatory remark. Something Rickenbacker and its minions never seem to grasp. It’s a “love everything we do or get lost” mindset. The word for that is “insular.”

Oh well. No good deed goes unpunished as the saying goes. Rickenbacker is what it is. And it’s not like anybody doesn’t know that already.

With all due respect, it is some guy, with no known reputation. We also don't know the language of the post - and exactly what he said.

 

[40Hz]

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With all due respect, it is some guy, with no known reputation. We also don't know the language of the post - and exactly what he said.

With all due and equal respect, Mr. Hall’s reputation proceeds him and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of a TB member since that behavior on the part of Mr. Hall is already an established fact.

I’m personally a little fed up with all the spoiled brats and thugs running so many businesses these days. And I don’t feel the need to pander to their attitudes or behavior. Success is no excuse for a lack of grace, humilty, or good manners. At least not in my book. And I have no issue with calling somebody to account for it.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. But in my world, showing a little style and some class is never a bad thing.

 

[fingerguy]

Rickenbacker posted a video on their facebook page, of a guy spray painting a body. I am a professional spray painter myself and pointed out a few mistakes which lead to me being blocked from posting and my post being deleted. Well there`s no democracy on the internet, i know that. But didn`t expect that hostile behaviour either.

It happens. During the days of MySpace my favorite adult star blocked me due to one single comment.

 

[Spidey2112]

... b)He doesn`t have the appropriate gear on to protect himself and the quality of his work...

There's the kicker... probably money involved, if the 'right' people see it.

 

[T_Bone_TL]

And if they removed the comment but left up the video, the 'right' people will eventually see it. It's not like the right people need that kind of thing pointed out for them. Or are oblivious to the internet, and its wealth of interesting information shared for the whole world to see.

 

[ElectroVibe]

I can't see the appeal of a company fb page. I'd rather hang out in a traditional forum like this where there is a little more variety of topics.

 

[ElectroVibe]

I've never worked with paint before but that looks pretty easy what he's doing. In fact I would take it out of the guy's hand and say, stand back I can do this myself.

 

[klejst]

Some people just cannot handle the truth.

 

[40Hz]

And if they removed the comment but left up the video, the 'right' people will eventually see it. It's not like the right people need that kind of thing pointed out for them. Or are oblivious to the internet, and its wealth of interesting information shared for the whole world to see.

Yeah as in: “Can you say probable OSHA violation?”

I’m sure their group health plan would be interested in that too.

I don’t FB. Can somebody see if the video is still up there? If not I think the OP’s comments struck a nerve somewhere.

 

[Spidey2112]

Yeah as in: “Can you say probable OSHA violation?”

I'm certainly glad at least two of us are on the same page...

... you nailed it, @40Hz... and get out of my head.

 

[Element Zero]

Ya know what’s funny is I blocked RIC from my Facebook AND Instagram pages. I don’t want them anywhere near my stuff.

 

[40Hz]

I'm certainly glad at least two of us are on the same page...

... you nailed it, @40Hz... and get out of my head.

Ran businesses for over 30 years. Things like that were never far from my mind.

But I didn’t need OSHA or my insurance carrier to get me to act in a responsible manner. Because I would never want someone to get sick or become injured because of the work they were doing for any company I had a say in. Especially not if it was something I could prevent.

So having the company arrange for the right tools and/or protective gear was both a moral obligation and priority to me. Not something I did purely to comply with some state or federal reg.

P.S. I’m not in your head. You’re in mine. (More empty room in mine too I’ll bet! So that’s a plus.)

 

[arbiterusa]

With all due and equal respect, Mr. Hall’s reputation proceeds him and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of a TB member since that behavior on the part of Mr. Hall is already an established fact.

Agreed.

Rickenbacker posted a video on their facebook page, of a guy spray painting a body. I am a professional spray painter myself and pointed out a few mistakes which lead to me being blocked from posting and my post being deleted. Well there`s no democracy on the internet, i know that. But didn`t expect that hostile behaviour either.

Christ, now I've got to defend a company I loathe.

You're a body shop guy. You know urethane, probably catalyzed. Dangerous stuff, that. Not knocking your background, I've done car work too, but it isn't the same. Not even close. I'm a guitar finisher. I know nitro. And urethane. And UV cured acrylate. 2k plus high-end acoustic guitars under my belt, five years in the booth. You may not like his technique (you'd never shoot a car like that) but he's not doing anything wrong - that's pretty much how I shoot nitro. Or any other guitar finish. As to safety, he's CA compliant. I personally like a great deal more than that - PAPR, full body Tyvek suit and full head helmet - but he's compliant for what he's spraying.

You don't have the background to understand that what you saw were not mistakes. I would have taken the time to point that out to you. John Hall is just going to delete you, ban you and get on with his life.

 

[buldog5151bass]

Christ, now I've got to defend a company I loathe.

You're a body shop guy. You know urethane, probably catalyzed. Dangerous stuff, that. Not knocking your background, I've done car work too, but it isn't the same. Not even close. I'm a guitar finisher. I know nitro. And urethane. And UV cured acrylate. 2k plus high-end acoustic guitars under my belt, five years in the booth. You may not like his technique (you'd never shoot a car like that) but he's not doing anything wrong - that's pretty much how I shoot nitro. As to safety, he's CA compliant. I personally like a great deal more than that - PAPR, full body Tyvek suit and full head helmet - but he's compliant.

You don't have the background to understand that what you saw were not mistakes. I would have taken the time to point that out to you. John Hall is just going to delete you, ban you and get on with his life.

What - you mean the largest guitar company that makes its instruments in this country actually knows what they are doing more than a few random TB members? Who 'da thunk?

 

[arbiterusa]

What - you mean the largest guitar company that makes its instruments in this country actually knows what they are doing more than a few random TB members? Who 'da thunk?

Martin knows what they're doing, lolz.

Rickenbacker is not even close in production numbers compared to either Martin or Taylor. But yeah, they know what they're doing.

 

[buldog5151bass]

Martin knows what they're doing, lolz.

Rickenbacker is not even close in production numbers compared to either Martin or Taylor. But yeah, they know what they're doing.

Touche.

At least you got the joke. I usually get skewered here for saying that Hall has the right to do business how he wants. And that everyone, in between complaining about his business, and saying everything they think he could do better, seems to want one of his axes.

 

[40Hz]

I would have taken the time to point that out to you. John Hall is just going to delete you, ban you and get on with his life.

And that in a nutshell tells you everything you need to know about the difference between normal people and John Hall. Half a minute to respond civilly. Two seconds to delete and ban - which seems to be Rickenbacker's corporate policy regarding any criticism pointed their way. Even asking a legitimate question they don't want to answer for whatever reason, no matter how intuitive, can get you unceremoniously kicked out of their forum. But so it goes. What reflects the mindset of contemporary America more than behavior like that, right? Or of those who rally in the defense of same.

But the minions circle once again defending Hall's irascible behavior, so there's really no point in going any further.

(Note: I'm one of the first to rally and defend Gibson from what I consider unfair criticism or disinformation. But I never once defended their CEO's attitude or frankly horrible behaviors toward Gibson's customers or dealers, or made excuses for poor customer service incidents, defective products, or poor design features. I like Gibson as a brand. But I don't consider them perfect as is - or above fair question or legitimate criticism.)

 

[40Hz]

Touche.

At least you got the joke. I usually get skewered here for saying that Hall has the right to do business how he wants. And that everyone, in between complaining about his business, and saying everything they think he could do better, seems to want one of his axes.

I guess most people just aren't used to recognizing or properly addressing gods when they bump into one.