Agreed. I like to just plug and play/set it and forget it!
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My standard Rumble 40 is a great practice amp. Added a Zoom B1xFour for some additional sounds a la Fender's 'studio' version so I don't get bored practicing scales. The Zoom thread here has amazing presets and keeps me from shoegazing. Did lust for deeper bass and scored a 15" (Acoustic B100) but it's 2x the weight and almost 2x the size but does sound much different from a Rumble (better in some ways). I also have a cheapo wireless, Getaria 2.4GHZ ($32) and it's pretty handy but it does not work on Ibanez' recessed jack, fine for Fender top and side jacks. Between the 2 you are choosing, I'd go Rumble 200 as it has a 15" and even at low levels the speaker surface area and frequency response matters.
I have a 25 and a 100. IME even the 25 is plenty for home use. I usually set the bass at noon or lower, and IDK if I’ve ever had the master past 9:00. So plenty of low end, even on that lil thing. The 100 is a monster practice amp, and just enough for me to rehearse with drums. Even served as my gig amp for a few years.
so my 2 cents: if you are attracted to the modeling and are confident you won’t be jamming (or don’t mind buying something else later) get the 40. If you wanna jam soon, get the 200. The 200 was my go-to tester amp on my last bass hunt, and I agree it’s mighty fine!
PS I’m not at all attracted to the modeling; the EQ, OD and 3 tone buttons on the “basic” Rumble is enough variation for me
Have fun!
so my 2 cents: if you are attracted to the modeling and are confident you won’t be jamming (or don’t mind buying something else later) get the 40. If you wanna jam soon, get the 200. The 200 was my go-to tester amp on my last bass hunt, and I agree it’s mighty fine!
PS I’m not at all attracted to the modeling; the EQ, OD and 3 tone buttons on the “basic” Rumble is enough variation for me
Have fun!
No, have to have the foot switch for it
I got mine as a "demo" from Samash and they threw the foot switch in
I keep the Jam Man looper handy for editing patches on the amp, play a loop and twiddle the settings while the same loop is playing.
Yeah I'm torn because I'm thinking of getting a Ditto, but with a looper right in the amp I already own, seems like a waste.
No, have to have the foot switch for it
I got mine as a "demo" from Samash and they threw the foot switch in
I keep the Jam Man looper handy for editing patches on the amp, play a loop and twiddle the settings while the same loop is playing.
I've been noticing lots of combo threads today. Are combo amps on the rise?
I’d guess playing at home on a budget is on the rise!
I just got a ditto, it's been fun for practicing. I can also make the loop and it stays there when the pedal is unplugged. So I can use it on different amps and with my daughter when we jam (she plays drums).
Realize, regardless of the power of the amp, that you have control how much of the power you are using. It is called the master volume on your Rumble amp (and in most amps). You don't have to feed it all the power at once, but rather use as much as you need. The Rumble 200 will do everything that the Rumble 40 does, but the Rumble 40 can't do everything the 200 can, not even close.
I have a DNS-410 cab by DNA (I am a DNA Endorsing Artist). It will handle 1400-watts rms and it has a maximum SPL of 137 db. Those are scary high levels. My 800-watt amp will only drive it to ~134db, which is still immediate hearing damage, so I never do it. I can play it softly when I want (and it sounds really good), or I can play an outdoor music festival with it. It does everything I need in all conditions. It does sometimes scare small venue owners when I roll it in, but I don't "have" to play it louder than a 40-watt combo, and I don't. My amp also has a "master" that I adjust according to the venue.
By the way, that Rumble 200 only puts out 140-watts into its internal 8 ohm speaker. You have to add a second 8 ohm cab to it to get all 200-watts (200-watts rms into 4 ohms). If you are thinking about gigging down the road, you might want to look at the Rumble 500. It weighs about the same 36½-lbs vs 34½-lbs for the 200 if that's important, and is a 210 cab so it pushes more air. You can play small and medium-sized venues with it and if you add another 210 extension cab, you now have a 410 which is sufficient in most cases to also play most large venues without sound reinforcement. Bring the extension speaker when playing large enough clubs to warrant it.
I don't usually recommend getting combos but if you're going to get one, get something that you can expand to play all the venues you need. In my opinion, the Rumble 200, even with an extension cab, would be hard-put to play in any of the larger medium-sized rooms let alone a large venue. If the venue has a FOH system (PA with monitors) it would work, but not all places have those. Both bands I play with bring our own FOH system (sound board with mains and monitors) with us.
I always think its better to get a head and a cabinet and then upgrade what you need when you need it from there. Although that's more expensive to start with, it's less expensive down the road to upgrade or customize. But that Rumble 500 should do the trick for you, at least for a few years if you're looking forward to playing gigs. If not planning on gigging, I think the Rumble 200 is still a much better choice than the Rumble 40.
In my opinion the Rumble 40 is a great bedroom practice amp. Only drawback is the XLR output level is controlled by the mater volume.
Hello Rip thank you so much for your time! When I was reading your volume hint I thought you were being kinda sarcastic (and maybe you were
but I must confess that simple line make me think a little bit about simple things like a) where I will play bass for the most of the time, and b) If I start some project, would it be a cover band or some experimental original project. I think I need to answer myself these really simple questions so I can decide which amp would be better for my needs.
Thank you sir!
Cheers!
The rabbit hole is everywhere. I’m more afraid of it if I decide to get the rumble 200, because then I’ll need a looper to practice, and then a reverb, delay and chorus pedals...all the things you’ll have in the Studio, all built in.
Perfect world? Maybe a cab for the extra power on the Studio 40 for jams with drums?...since the overall opinion is that the 40watts is sufficient for home practicing.
Thank you for your feedback.
Cheers!
Very cool!
Wireless vibe. Does the Bluetooth feature recognize AirPods as well?
Can you also tell me your thoughts on the fender pedal? Where do you set the effects you can control in the pedal? By the way, the looper is easy to play with?
So, for you, the effects and presets are not the big plus, but the convenient wi-fi feature?!
The 800 stage would solve my problem (and for the size is still very light weight). Out of my budget tho.
Couldn't say about the air pods.
The first three effects in your patch are controllable with the pedal.
And, yes, the looper is very easy to use, I just wish you could control the loop volume like you can with the Jam Man or a Ditto looper.
I’ll have to try a Rumble 40 to feel it (no store nearby have the Studio 40 in stock to try out). I think is the way so I can decide if it delivers the power I want or if I would be more comfortable with the 200w
Both have the capability to bother the neighbors, if you don't keep an eye(or ear?) on the volume knob. And at the volumes you'll likely use, both will have plenty of low end. So, either would be fine..
That said, it's a choice of which features you like the most. and that's the kinda thing that only you can decide.
Or set it up as a poll, and choose the most popular on TB community.
But, the good news is, either way will be pretty cool.
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Thank you for your feedback! This is my first post in TB and I am very happy I found such a great community and such valuable feedbacks! I have read a lot about the rumble series but not so much about the Studio 40 experience (low end notes, headroom and digital features) and this thread is being really helpful because I already know tried the rumble 200.
really helpful!
Thank you so much for your time!
Is it possible that the looper volume issue would be fixed by a firmware update?
Still about the pedal, does it needs its own power supply?
Happy to help Ricardo and welcome to Talk Bass.Hello Rip thank you so much for your time! When I was reading your volume hint I thought you were being kinda sarcastic (and maybe you were
I think I need to answer myself these really simple questions so I can decide which amp would be better for my needs.
Thank you sir!
Cheers!
I was not being sarcastic about that but it's a simple thing that a lot of people overlook. For instance I ran a rig with two Eden 4 ohm EX112 cabs and they each handle 300-wats. My Eden WT500/800 is a dual powerblock amp putting out 400-watts into 4 ohms in each channel. So each channel will put out 400 watts into each 4 ohm speaker if I maxed them out and that could blow them. I didn't come anywhere close to doing that for the year I gigged them though. I usually had the master on my 800-watt amp at 10 o'clock when I was using them. That was plenty loud enough for medium-sized clubs and I wasn't putting anywhere near 300-watts of power into them, let alone the 400-watts each channel could deliver. At bigger clubs I used the same amp into my 410 but bridged it at 800-watts.
I also have a DNS-210 cab that is rated at 700-watts rms handling power and I run my Eden amp bridged into it at 800-watts. But I'm not delivering anywhere near that amount of power to them. That particular cab has a maximum SPL of 134db and my amp could drive it to that. But that level is above the threshold of pain and causes instant hearing damage. So I don't come anywhere near pushing that much power to it. That Master Volume knob controls how much power I'm sending it.
Now, I also have an older 400-watt Eden Nemesis RS400 amp and when I got it, I was using a GK115bpx cab (200-watts power handling) and an older Sunn 212 cab (only 100-watts power handling) with an amp that only delivered about 85 watts to be split between them. That 400-watt amp caused the Sunn 212 cab to fart out from too much power very easily. So it wasn't practical to use that amp with that cab and I had to upgrade to a better cab. My point is that it's not really a good idea to have a lot more power than a cab can handle because it's too easy to stress it. But if you can get it to gig levels and it's still playing nice and cleanly without being stressed, you're fine. You are not exceeding your cabs power handling capabilities because you're not sending it more power than it can handle.
You do have to listen to your cabs though when your playing and if you hear them starting to make farting noises, you need to change something immediately. First thing is to drop the Bass EQ back to flat if you've boosted it, and cut it below flat if you had it set flat. If that doesn't fix it, then you do need to drop the master right now or you will damage your speakers. Don't wait until the end of the song. By the way, if you are using distortion, it is immensely more difficult to hear when your speakers are getting stressed.
So you have control of how much power you send to your cab(s) and turning it down is always an option. You know, I've had my 800-watt Eden amp for 10-years now; I've played indoor and outdoor venues and festivals with it; and I've never maxed it out. With my DNS-410 cab I ran my master at 10:30 at an outdoor festival at an airport and got told to turn it down.
Nope, it plugs in with a standard 1/4 inch connector