Rumble 200 vs Rumble 40 studio

#41
Ricardo Leandro said:
So, for you, the effects and presets are not the big plus, but the convenient wi-fi feature?!
The 800 stage would solve my problem (and for the size is still very light weight). Out of my budget tho.
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The effects, meh they're fun to mess with but I don't own a single pedal so I don't really use effects. What I love though is the amp models. Those are really fun to use for different sounds. I can't speak for every one but the Bassman is pretty spot on, since I have a handwired tube bassman the direct comparison is really close.
 
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I was just at GC and I played on the plain ol' Rumble 40 and I really don't think you'll need much more than that for a small practice space. I've been eyeing one to use in a similar situation. That little thing has some punch for being so small and weighing practically nothing. With a drummer you may need more, but I have been very impressed with the current Rumble line from Fender.
 
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The Studio 40 is my practice amp, and it's pretty dope - the perfect bedroom amp, IMHO. The effects and models are great fun, you can use either the four or seven button Fender multifunction pedals, the Bluetooth, wifi, phone/tablet app, and it is its own usb audio interface for recording - just plug into phone or computer.

It's perfect for me because 80% of my playing is in headphones, and the other 20% still happens in a 9x12 room - so i have yet to turn the 40 up to half volume.
 
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I'm having problems with the Fender Rumbles. I've got a Rumble 15 as a beginner practice amp, and it's OK for what it is except that it rattles badly at higher volumes. So I got a Rumble 40, figuring it would be a more solid product that wouldn't produce any extraneous noise. But it rattled horribly, so I returned it and got a Studio 40, again figuring that it's twice as expensive so it must at least have a better cab. And it is better, but it still rattles very noticeably at certain frequencies (low C thru E, mainly) at quite moderate volumes. Everything else about the amp is nice -- good tone, flexible controls, loudness-to-weight ratio is good, the fx and amp models are fun but not too distracting once you figure out what you like, the pre- and post- XLR outputs are great.

But damn, all the rattles in these Fenders. I'm assuming that's not common and I've just had bad luck. Right? I'm probably going to return the Studio 40. Should I order a replacement and assume the new one is going to be OK?
 
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I would get the 200. An advantage of being a bassist is that we don't need to achieve natural tube breakup from our amps, so we can play a clean 1 watt amp in the livingroom or a clean 1200 watt amp in the livingroom. Why I would get the 200 over the 40? I'm an optimist and believe one day bands will play live again, and for that you would need 200 watts and an extention cabinet, the 40 just wouldn't cut it. Cheers.
 
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DCCat said:
I'm having problems with the Fender Rumbles. I've got a Rumble 15 as a beginner practice amp, and it's OK for what it is except that it rattles badly at higher volumes. So I got a Rumble 40, figuring it would be a more solid product that wouldn't produce any extraneous noise. But it rattled horribly, so I returned it and got a Studio 40, again figuring that it's twice as expensive so it must at least have a better cab. And it is better, but it still rattles very noticeably at certain frequencies (low C thru E, mainly) at quite moderate volumes. Everything else about the amp is nice -- good tone, flexible controls, loudness-to-weight ratio is good, the fx and amp models are fun but not too distracting once you figure out what you like, the pre- and post- XLR outputs are great.

But damn, all the rattles in these Fenders. I'm assuming that's not common and I've just had bad luck. Right? I'm probably going to return the Studio 40. Should I order a replacement and assume the new one is going to be OK?
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Are you sure that it’s the amp that rattles, and not something in your immediate surroundings? I ask because I’ve owned 5 Rumbles, from the 15 to the 500 (still got 4 of them), and never experienced this in a single one.

Try it in a different room in the house, if you haven’t already, and see if you get the same result. If you don’t, the amp is probably not at fault. If you do, remove the speaker grille and tighten the screws holding the driver in place, and see if that helps.
 
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kosmicwizard said:
I would get the 200. An advantage of being a bassist is that we don't need to achieve natural tube breakup from our amps, so we can play a clean 1 watt amp in the livingroom or a clean 1200 watt amp in the livingroom. Why I would get the 200 over the 40? I'm an optimist and believe one day bands will play live again, and for that you would need 200 watts and an extention cabinet, the 40 just wouldn't cut it. Cheers.
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Inspiring feedback! Thank you!
 
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JakobT said:
Are you sure that it’s the amp that rattles, and not something in your immediate surroundings? I ask because I’ve owned 5 Rumbles, from the 15 to the 500 (still got 4 of them), and never experienced this in a single one.

Try it in a different room in the house, if you haven’t already, and see if you get the same result. If you don’t, the amp is probably not at fault. If you do, remove the speaker grille and tighten the screws holding the driver in place, and see if that helps.
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Yeah, I've done this with the 40 and the Studio 40. The 40 was such a rattler that it was very clear the cab was the problem, but I tried it in another room anyway. Some of the high frequency buzz went away, but the jarring rattle was still there. Similar story with the Studio 40, so yeah, there's something in my practice environment that vibrates at a high frequency. But the lower frequency rattles have followed the amps around. The Studio 40 isn't nearly as bad as the 40, but it still can't handle digging in and sharp dynamics at certain frequencies, even at moderate volumes. It's usable for solo practice, but annoying when playing with others at higher volumes.

I've tightened every screw I can find in the Studio 40 (while being careful not to overtighten/strip), including the speaker baffle screws. I also took out the electronics, tightened things down on the circuit boards, and looked for wires or other objects that might vibrate against one another (and likewise where the wires connect to the speakers). All of this had no effect. I did a cursory examination of the glued joints (can't see a lot of them inside because of foam glued to the interior surfaces), but what I saw looked basically OK. Also rested the amp on mounts to get it off the floor and tried it on carpet and cement, all to no effect. Probably something that I couldn't easily see needs to be glued or fitted better internally.
 
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DCCat said:
Yeah, I've done this with the 40 and the Studio 40. The 40 was such a rattler that it was very clear the cab was the problem, but I tried it in another room anyway. Some of the high frequency buzz went away, but the jarring rattle was still there. Similar story with the Studio 40, so yeah, there's something in my practice environment that vibrates at a high frequency. But the lower frequency rattles have followed the amps around. The Studio 40 isn't nearly as bad as the 40, but it still can't handle digging in and sharp dynamics, even at moderate volumes. It's usable for solo practice, but annoying when playing with others at higher volumes.

I've tightened every screw I can find in the Studio 40 (while being careful not to overtighten/strip), including the speaker baffle screws. I also took out the electronics, tightened things down on the circuit boards, and looked for wires or other objects that might vibrate against one another (and likewise where the wires connect to the speakers). All of this had no effect. I did a cursory examination of the glued joints (can't see a lot of them inside because of foam glued to the interior surfaces), but what I saw looked basically OK. Also rested the amp on mounts to get it off the floor and tried it on carpet and cement, all to no effect. Probably something that I couldn't easily see needs to be glued or fitted better internally.
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Commiserations - you’ve obviously done your homework, you must simply have been singularily unlucky.
 
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DCCat said:
Yeah, I've done this with the 40 and the Studio 40. The 40 was such a rattler that it was very clear the cab was the problem, but I tried it in another room anyway. Some of the high frequency buzz went away, but the jarring rattle was still there. Similar story with the Studio 40, so yeah, there's something in my practice environment that vibrates at a high frequency. But the lower frequency rattles have followed the amps around. The Studio 40 isn't nearly as bad as the 40, but it still can't handle digging in and sharp dynamics at certain frequencies, even at moderate volumes. It's usable for solo practice, but annoying when playing with others at higher volumes.

I've tightened every screw I can find in the Studio 40 (while being careful not to overtighten/strip), including the speaker baffle screws. I also took out the electronics, tightened things down on the circuit boards, and looked for wires or other objects that might vibrate against one another (and likewise where the wires connect to the speakers). All of this had no effect. I did a cursory examination of the glued joints (can't see a lot of them inside because of foam glued to the interior surfaces), but what I saw looked basically OK. Also rested the amp on mounts to get it off the floor and tried it on carpet and cement, all to no effect. Probably something that I couldn't easily see needs to be glued or fitted better internally.
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Make an enclosure of air mattresses put the amp inside then test. Not kidding.
 
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