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I wasn't and neither was anyone in this thread as far as I can tell. Which is why I don't get your point.
I would go for the Para Driver over both Bass Drivers as it has sweepable mids, which is something you should be looking for.
I own 5 of Tech21 pedals: 2x BDDI V1 (first one with older PCB version - fully analog and second one with a bit newer PCB version, both great condition) , 1x BDDI V2, 2x VTDI and I can't decide which one I like most 
I wish to sell some of them, but they're all different sounding and all are such a great pedals. Every of them is great for different purpose.
I wish to sell some of them, but they're all different sounding and all are such a great pedals. Every of them is great for different purpose.
I've always had a hard time saying the V2 is better than the previous version of the BDDI even though I sort of like the V2 better for most of what I use it for. I agree that they are different enough (and both good enough) that it is not wastefully redundant to own both.I own 5 of Tech21 pedals: 2x BDDI V1 (first one with older PCB version - fully analog and second one with a bit newer PCB version, both great condition) , 1x BDDI V2, 2x VTDI and I can't decide which one I like most
I have an Aguilar Tone Hammer I’d be willing to trade for a VT Bass Version 2. PM me if you’re interested.I own 5 of Tech21 pedals: 2x BDDI V1 (first one with older PCB version - fully analog and second one with a bit newer PCB version, both great condition) , 1x BDDI V2, 2x VTDI and I can't decide which one I like most
EDIT: Just realized you live in Poland! That might not work lol.
I think that is better affecting both like the v2, so you can eq the clean signal or Im wrong?The V2 would be the best pedal in the world if it had PRE/POST EQ switch.
The EQ section and the characteristic mid scoop in V1 affects only on processed signal. In V2, MID knob affects both signals: clean and processed. There's no way to get V2 sounding exactly like V1. If you cut mids just like in V1, it cuts also clean signal, making overall bass sound very dry and almost inaudible in mix.
So... TECH21, PLEASE MAKE V3 WITH PRE/POST EQ MID SWITCHOr something like that...
ok…officially guilty of resurrecting this thread…bt there’r guys comin up behind us who haven’t the experience we older dudes have…briefly…if i want tube emulation/super light od, i go VT BASS DI…if i have a date where i know & trust the sound man &/or FOH gear, i go BASS DRIVER DI V1 (no mid/bass shift)…goin in blind i use BASS DRIVER DI V2 (w mid/bass shift)…always my main concern when there is FOH or some1 @ the board, is not over eq-ing because stage eq sound i need is usually TOTALLY unrelated to what the FOH needs…however, i have been involved in live streaming events where the mid option of V2 is essential…though this is not the original topic of the thread, IMO the VT is different enuf that it should be considered seperately…though i own & use all 3…wenever possible V1 is my pref
Having owned and gigged the Tone Hammer, BDDI V1, VT Bass, and BDDI V2, I’d definitely say that the BDDI v2 is the easiest to dial in and most versatile. VT Bass can be hard to tame and dial in. BDDI V1 can be a one trick pony and be too scooped. I didn’t like the Aguilar but others love it. That’s just my take after owning and extensively gigging all of them.
I’ve had the VT Bass DI, BDDI V1 and V2, and the Tone Hammer (in amp form). The only one I still have and use regularly is the BDDI V2.
I liked the V1 while I had it but it had a very particular baked-in sound that was excellent in my hard rock band but not good in a lot of other contexts. The VTDI just didn’t work out for me for some reason, as if the EQ points were just all a little off, especially the character control. They probably could have called it a caricature control instead, because it emphasized those “characteristic” frequencies well beyond what was realistic, or at least tasteful for me. The Aguilar I wish I had spent more time with- it was nice but I was using it mostly through sealed, narrow-range Ampeg cabs and it was a little too much of that “warm fat” thing when paired with them.
The V2 BDDI is still very much a SansAmp but I have found it to be much more tweakable and subtle than it’s predecessor. It’s currently the only time shaping in my home practice rig, and sounds pleasant with all my basses, whereas the V1 was really only well matched with 4s and rounds, imho. The mids control and subtler grit on the new version make it much better suited to old-school flat wound sounds. It’s still not perfect- I vastly prefer my Walkabout’s DI for that kind of thing- but it’s much more serviceable than the V1.
And for my 5-strings, the V2 seems to have a nice tightening effect on the sound of the low B on my basses, and as such it’s become an important component of my rig when I play 5-string gigs.
The V1 definitely had a certain “90s style” aggression and clank that I can’t quite get from the V2, but the wider range of possibilities in the new version more than makes up for it, imho.
I liked the V1 while I had it but it had a very particular baked-in sound that was excellent in my hard rock band but not good in a lot of other contexts. The VTDI just didn’t work out for me for some reason, as if the EQ points were just all a little off, especially the character control. They probably could have called it a caricature control instead, because it emphasized those “characteristic” frequencies well beyond what was realistic, or at least tasteful for me. The Aguilar I wish I had spent more time with- it was nice but I was using it mostly through sealed, narrow-range Ampeg cabs and it was a little too much of that “warm fat” thing when paired with them.
The V2 BDDI is still very much a SansAmp but I have found it to be much more tweakable and subtle than it’s predecessor. It’s currently the only time shaping in my home practice rig, and sounds pleasant with all my basses, whereas the V1 was really only well matched with 4s and rounds, imho. The mids control and subtler grit on the new version make it much better suited to old-school flat wound sounds. It’s still not perfect- I vastly prefer my Walkabout’s DI for that kind of thing- but it’s much more serviceable than the V1.
And for my 5-strings, the V2 seems to have a nice tightening effect on the sound of the low B on my basses, and as such it’s become an important component of my rig when I play 5-string gigs.
The V1 definitely had a certain “90s style” aggression and clank that I can’t quite get from the V2, but the wider range of possibilities in the new version more than makes up for it, imho.
Just wanted to mention that the Presence control on the BDDI (V1 anyway) is boost-only, unlike the cut/boost bass and treble. Most TBers probably know this, but I'm aware of a couple/few folks who didn't: they set Presence to noon and wondered "why so clanky?"
I happen to love aggressive clang for hard rock so I'd set Presence to around 11 o'clock, give or take.
Again, I'm talking BDDI v1. Not sure how Presence works on v2.
I happen to love aggressive clang for hard rock so I'd set Presence to around 11 o'clock, give or take.
Again, I'm talking BDDI v1. Not sure how Presence works on v2.
FWIW…I very rarely use the blend on V1 or V2 past 10 o’clock …and…my VTDI blend sits @ 12…i particularly enjoy the VTDI for accentuating pick playing by scooping the mid and/or character control, & depending on which bass i’m using, boosting highs (which otherwise is something i NEVER do)………all in all…it’s been said countless times…reading reviews is no substitute for trying the gear yourself
+1
I agree with everything said. I do own V1 and V2 an for flats with a P Bass the mids control is very helpful.
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I have been using my V2 for rock based recordings lately.
I’m digging these settings
I actually like cutting the bass slightly with this unit at the 40 and leaving the mids at 500.
I’m digging these settings
I actually like cutting the bass slightly with this unit at the 40 and leaving the mids at 500.
Irrespective of the version, the BDDI is still the "gold standard' in my book...not necessarily better or worse than its counterparts but the yardstick by which all others are measured. I abandoned the BDDI platform in favor of the VT-based BFR v1 to front-load foreign backlines and a permanently installed 30 y.o. original rackmount which, IMO, knocks the socks off the successors:
That is almost exactly how I use mine... it's been hard to find any DI or even an amp that sounds as good as this pedal honestly.
It is very impressive when going direct to a FOH system IME.
Still happy with mine after plenty of live use. The new Origin 64 black panel is starting to aggravate my GAS, but I can’t imagine it being much better… and its 500 clams! Only time will tell. The Aguilar tone hammer and the Broughton Fliptop fell short for me compared to the BDDI v.2 and they were both VERY popular flavors of the month here at Talkbass. Who knows…