Double Bass Small combo jazz camps

Were I ever to open a "small combo jazz camp", (don't worry, I WON'T!), here is what I'd/we'd do:
1. Play a Blues in F for 3 minutes (by EAR, No Charts/No Phones/No Pads!) - then have experienced faculty members identify (and demonstrate!) what the FIRST ISSUE in need of fixing is - it's usually Very Obvious - whether it is "Group Related" or "Individual Related"...OUCH! This process would be similar to a visit to your auto mechanic, in that you may be told that you have not been maintaining/driving your auto in a responsible manner, and now have significant repair "issues" (there is that word again....) that may inflict significant monetary and emotional damages. OUCH!
2. Repeat. Blues in F for 3 minutes. (Is it getting better? If not, why not?) We will be isolating and focusing on very specific issues that need fixing, for the good of the combo, for the good of the Music.
3. At both the Group and/or Individual level, what is now the NEXT ISSUE that needs to be addressed...ad infinitum. (Don't worry about any esoteric issues that are well beyond the grasp of your members - i.e. "Coltrane Changes.......", unless your Combo is playing Giant Steps and not self-immolating!)
4. Individuals will work with an experienced faculty member in daily private lessons to address said (and future) "ISSUES".
5. Day 2 - Learn a new Tune, same process, (and revisit Blues in F.)
Seriously.

FYI - The name of my camp would be - "The Wake Up and Smell The Coffee" Jazz Combo Camp, or "The, No!... We Are Not Having Fun Yet!" Jazz Combo Camp.
It would be unlike any other jazz camp and would not succeed beyond the first year. (Possible merch: "I went to Combo Camp and all I got was Humiliated, and this crappy Tee Shirt!") (smiley face here.)

Fascinating Topic, though...Seriously.
Good Luck, Tom.

Sign me up! I'd go! I just had a lesson who corrected a couple of things on my walking. VERY helpful and much appreciated. Rufus taught me this exercise which I now do religiously every time I practice. Put on Drum Genius and play the melody to a blues. Then walk in 2 a few choruses, ensuring it grooves and feels good, good intonation, not too busy, keep it simple but you can add drops or pickups as long as they're in time with the drummer. Then walk a few choruses. Then solo and end the tune. Takes a few minutes and I kind of think of it as my "calibration" exercise before I move on to new material.

BTW, I haven't forgotten about "roughly transcribing" Sunshine of My Life. I was busy for a few days and then I'm working on composing that solo for BiG, which I've done at the piano. Now, I'm trying to play on the piano at a better pace while fingering the chords. It's coming along. Next, the BEAST! ;)

But again, I'm with you. At the camps, I think they codle us too much. Still, most of the time we sound better as a group than when we started, so there's usually a positive effect. I'd welcome more attention to fundamentals. Interesestly, I got that with Andy LaVerne, Lynn Seaton, Rufus, Chris Fitzgerald, and John Goldsby. Andy was particularly critical, rude, condescending, no diplomacy, but when I asked him for details, he gave me some of the best advice I've ever received and I'm still indebted to him for it. I want to improve.

For this combo, I've already played with all of these people and they're already beyond the basics. Most are already pretty seasoned and are just exploring next steps; they're competent on their instruments, can read charts, and handle new tunes well. One is a high school big band teacher, another a professional clarinetist in an LA symphony, the pianist is a grad student at the UofL. So, in this case, I'm bringing up the least skilled and, I can play. I can be better, but I can get it done most of the time. The drummer has good chops and has played for years. He gets lost more often than I'd like on unfamiliar tunes, but, good chops! and good time that grooves with me and the band.
 
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Hey, (seriously) instead of Sunshine of My Life, you could write up the melody and changes to Beauty and the Beast by W. Shorter.
I've been listening to BATB a lot lately. Very interesting tune.
Thanks, Tom.
Okay, sunshine sounded pretty easy based on casual listening. But I don't think Wayne's been listening to anything for several months now...
 
Just got back last night from the summer workshop. This is the one in which we pre-selected our members, tunes, and study topics. It didn't quite go as I expected but it went very well. Three things, in particular, helped a lot: preselecting our members and ensuring that we're all about the same level, preselecting our tunes so we were all familiar with most of them, and preselecting our study topics. I'd guess that we're all functioning at an undergrad level, maybe sophomores or juniors. My experience is that grad students are usually better than us and freshman usually a little worse. There were six of us, drums, DB, piano, guitar, alto, and trumpet. A variety of ages, from 40's to 70's. We were definitely the most-skilled group again at the camp.

Out of the six groups - fifty-four campers - three were early beginners, two were a mix but mostly beginners with one or two strong players, sometimes that strong player was the drummer who was a grad student at the UofL, and then us. I realize that the host has actually adapted the camp quite quickly the past three years from Jamey's camp. First, he made it only for adults, no kids allowed, mostly - there has been one each year, but they're the exception. That's a huge change considering that in the early years - 1960s - Jamey's camp was mostly high school and college kids. Next, they're focusing on adult beginners which is probably smart because that's where the bulge in the population is and is great for all of those beginners, but really miserable for that one intermediate or advanced player stuck in with 6 newbys. They're effectively using the intermediate player as a TA for the group, but instead of paying the intermediate player, the intermediate player is paying for the camp! In my case, I've learned how to support beginners and those skills don't need any further refinement at this point so if I'm going to play with a bunch of beginners, it should be because I'm doing a friend a favor or I'm getting paid to do so.

I said that it didn't quite go as expected. About 70% as expected. The rest of the group aren't as anxious to learn new things, so no complex meter tunes nor altering the form. We did work with a singer, double-time feel, interacting with the rhythm section, and playing with the pros. I had to move the "pros" session off-site after the host said I couldn't do that activity at his site. But, four of us got to play with Chris Fitzgerald, Gabe Evens, Marlin McKay, and Mike Hyman. Hyman's time is exceptional but he played it very straight and I didn't get to experience the real Hyman. Probably for the better, I don't think I can handle it. The other three did well but I was so nervous that my palms were so sweaty that I couldn't get any friction on the string and, super whimpy tone, almost like a whimper! I wasn't the only one that was nervous, the pianist told me that she'd been having nightmeres about the gig the week before. Still, each of us played a tune with them and then got 12 minutes of coaching so it was a very worthwhile exercise and I plan to do it again. Doing so taught me a lot about the difference between their more sophisticated playing, and mine, kind of like providing a vague map of what I need to do to get to the next level.

We asked our leader this year, Sean Parsons from Ohio U, to be more critical and helpful and he gave us notes after each tune and we were all pleased with his diplomatic but wise advice.

I don't know what will happen next year. The host won't decide until October if he'll do the camp again next year or not. If not, I'll do my own thing, either with the folks in Louisville or back here in LA and I'll probably go to Port Townsend next year, either way. I do think I'll make some changes to the format, but they won't be big changes, more refinements on this first proof of concept. For instance, I'll probably have each camper be the "boss for the day" and call the tunes they want, in their keys, with their arrangements, at their tempos. The arrangements can't be too complicated, something we can all play well after one reading, but we burned up too much time this week working on our recital tune because we didn't write down the intro and outro and we took turns messing it up. We nailed it for the recital though so, it worked out. Everyone played well at the recital, except our sax player called Oleo about 100 bpm faster than we'd rehearse it so we were all holding on for dear life! Funny after the fact!

If we do decide that we want to work with a singer again, I'd consider either a) hiring a more developed singer who has their own arrangements or b) working with the same or a similar singer and hiring an arranger to teach us how to make the arrangements. I think that'd be win-win-win. The singer would get arrangements that she can use with her group, our group would get a more professional experience with a singer, and I'd learn something about arranging charts for singers. I got the idea when Marlin McKay helped our singer develop an arrangement of Alone Together on the spot.

So, overall, a wonderful experience. I improved by working those complex meter tunes and just preparing for the workshop, then improved again, playing five hours a day with folks about my level, and our instructors were all highly skilled as musicians and instructors, Sean Parsons, Marlin McKay, Jerry Tolson, Terry O'Mahoney, and Scott Wendholt.
 
I contacted my combo mates to see if they're interested in doing something similar next year and got thumbs up from three of them and I expect that the other two will join in. So, I'll go ahead and set it up in Louisville regardless of what the host decides to do - host the camp or retire it. I think the only way we'll be able to fold our workshop into his is if he'll be "hands-off" and just rent us some of his space but I don't expect him to go for that. I do think it's the optimal solution for both of us because then we'll have a good venue, access to his faculty and our friends, and he doesn't lose six-plus people from his camp. He can be practicle and he's not an idiot, so we'll see.

I sent the band this list of modifications for next year.

It's amazing how much work you get done between Louisville and Los Angeles when you're stuck on airplanes and in airports.

Here are the refinements/changes I'm thinking about for next year. Think them over and give me your feedback? Sorry for the long email. I could "trickle" them out to you one at a time, but that seems like a lot of emails, but let me know your preference.

I thought this year went very well but I think I can improve the experience for us with some minor refinements.

1) I think we should record. Probably later in the week but not necessarily the last day. A proper video recording, with a few takes if necessary. Something that we can use as an audition reel.

2) Instead of hiring ONE combo leader, I’d consider bringing in a new one each day. Marlin, Sean, Jerry, Chris, Gabe, Craig? I just need one more. I found the cross pollination very helpful. Or alternatively, bring in Sean or someone similar for the week but have others drop by in the afternoon. I’d prioritize filling any available spots with women. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Natalie Boeyink, Sara and Rachel Caswell, but there’s always Google.

3) I’d ask you each to prepare some arrangements of tunes that you’d like to play and make charts for all of us and distribute in advance. Even better if you make play-alongs. You don’t have to if you don’t want to, but I realized that if we’re to sound more professional, we shouldn’t just wing our renditions any longer. We all can already wing an intro and outro and play the form. Horn harmonies, shout choruses, textural devices. For me, anyway, I think that’s my next step. It doesn’t appear anyone is up for too much prep-work before camp so I’d guess that the arrangements shouldn’t be too complicated, but something like how we arranged Autumn Leaves would definitely be in our wheelhouse if it had been written down. Something we can read easily with one run-through.

4) If we decided to work with Molly again for a session, I’d probably hire someone to help us develop the arrangements for her beforehand. Someone with more experience than me, similar to what Marlin was doing with her. A lesson with a usable result for all of us. The one thing I was hoping to demonstrate didn’t happen. Last year in the vocal workshop Jerry played with us while we took turns singing a tune and he improvised different length fills between her phrases. It turns that rubato feel into a conversation in which both the singer and the accompanist have to listen carefully for their queues and I enjoyed the exercise and thought it a higher skill. I think Molly didn’t remember because I couldn’t get her to pause long enough. She might have been anxious. Actually, Jerry would also be a good option and he already has his arrangements and charts. Or someone else.

5) I’d hire someone like Gabe or Mike Hyman to work with the rhythm section to be better, tighter.

6) I’d encourage all of us to get private lessons with our faculty on your own expense. You could do one or all, whatever you like. Of course, Cathy and Ronnie are all set already with private teachers. I have mine too but I think Gabe, Chris, Marlin, and Mike Hyman are special. I expect that Everald is set for teachers too but I don’t know about Greg.

7) I imagine the day going from 10 to Noon, 2 to 5, and then we’d be free to go to Mike’s camp or rest or take care of whatever we need to. Or play some more, whatever we like.

8) I’d also be open to doubling up on instruments if that’s what you’d like. I find I always learn from watching and listening to other bassists. From people about my level or better, I learn what they do that I don’t, and for folks that our less skilled, I learn why they don’t sound as good. Usually, it’s a lack of training or rigor. Aside from just the value of watching how someone else handles the same material and their different capabilities and perspective, it’d also reduce the cost and give us a chance to rest our hands and lips.

9) I don’t think we should do a recital. We could give a performance if we like, in a venue with an audience. A bar or coffee house. We burned up lot of the week working on our recital tune, despite Don’s insistence that we don’t, and if we had written out the chart on the first day, none of that time would have been wasted. We could have simply recorded ourselves on the last day, two or three takes, and have something we’d be proud of without the wasted time. It’s not that I don’t think recitals are important, I do, especially for the parents who are paying for their kids to come, but we’ve all had many recitals. I don’t feel I need any further experience with it.

10) To Sean’s point, each of us would take the turn being the leader of the group. As the leader, you pick the tunes, produce your arrangements, which could just be a RB page if you like, set the tempo, the soloing order, etc. Think of it as us working for you to make “your” music. We’d still make topic and logistical decisions democratically, but during “your” day, you’re the boss.

11) No guest lecturers. We could ask our faculty if they have any materials that they’d like to share with us that they think would be valuable but I’m not seeing the value of bringing in Tom or Scott. They’re great, but so are Chris and Gabe and Terry and Marlin, but correct me if I’m wrong. I know Cathy and Ronnie have studied with these folks so maybe you’re looking for a fresh perspective?

12) I’d vote to do the “play-with-the-pros” again with Gabe, Chris, Hyman, and Marlin but it’d be optional as it was this past year.

13) No master classes unless there’s something you think would be particularly valuable. Chris’ lecture at Mike’s first camp I thought was pretty good. I liked Mike’s lecture yesterday, and Marlin’s I found valuable, so I wouldn’t rule them out.

14) What am I missing?
 
Here's a recording of the recital last Friday. I think we sound pretty good. Everald counted off the first tune at about 200 bpm when we'd be rehearsing it at 140 so, that was a surprise. He apologized later. And we got messed up in our solo order on the 2nd tune. I always follow the guitarist, but not that time, and then I got lost in my solo towards the end, which is surprising because I didn't have any issues in rehearsal, but I covered it well. So, overall, a pretty good result.

 
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Some news: Mike Tracy has decided to host the 4th year of the Louisville Jazz Workshop next year, July 20th -25th. It'll be pretty much the same as in 2024, at a very nice, mazz-like, Presbyterian church in a very nice neighborhood, close to lots of food options, similar faculty and staff. I think he's happy with the format at this point and don't expect many changes. This will probably be his last workshop because he wants to retire. Thus far, he's only advertised the camp to previous students by email but he'll look for public participants in December or so. If you play bass or drums, there will be spots open until May if not July, but if you play guitar, you might want to jump on it once the announcement goes public.

I won't be going because I decided to up my game and go John Clayton and Jeff Hamilton's Centrum Workshop near Seattle and the dates overlap, so I couldn't go even if I wanted to, and I don't want to.

The group I assembled last year appears to mostly have desolved. The drummer wants to play with different people, the pianist is thinking of only going to one workshop next year and so skipping Mike's, they had me fire the alto player - not quite at our level, the trumpet player is still in but is also going to Centrum, and the guitarist doesn't want to plan for next year yet. I had found a replacement pianist and had a plan for the drummer but it seems like that band is mostly "no longer" so if I wanted to do a workshop in Louisville next year, I'd be nearly starting over.

That's not impossible, and these days, I'm more familiar with the jazz scene in Louisville that I am in LA and so there are advantages to returning to Louisville but it does seem like a lot of inertia to overcome.

I did email the director of the jazz program at the UofL to ask him if he'd discuss hosting a different workshop but haven't heard back yet. We haven't met but I know him by reputation and have heard him play - like his playing! He's new to the program and I'm sure has a lot on his plate these days, so probably next year is not good timing for him. Still, I'd be willing to help him put together something if he's interested. If he did put something together, then I'd see if I can fit into that or not. I'm happy to promote jazz ed, so if his workshop proceeded without me, that'd be fine with me.

Ah, for completeness, there are a few more summer jazz workshops around.

Tritone in New York State.

Sligo in Sligo, Ireland. John Goldsby is usually on faculty there and the concerts are held in the local taverns.

New York Academy in NYC.

If you do a Google search, you'll find several in Italy, one near Standford, and some others. Best of luck playing better jazz!
 
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I came across this academic paper about the Aebersold Summer Jazz Workshop written in 1987 entitled Summer Jazz Workshop: An Organizational Study. I found it interesting on many levels but probably the biggest take away is the history and inner workings of the management of the workshop. From my experience, it hadn't changed much between 1987 and 2018 when it ended. Below is the abstract. Here's a link to the paper.

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