The Modified BEAD 4 String Bass Club

I have joined the club. Not only joined, but jumped in fully. After converting my thunderbird I am now converting my beloved RS Guitarworks P Bass. I've been a five string player at heart for most of my life, but I find I am more creative on a four. Could never find the best of both worlds until now.

Welcome a new Club number! 😁

#111 @carsonchilders . . [Hmmmm close to November 11th! Are you a veteran? No answer required.]

I'll be monitoring to add more members as they post here. If I skipped anyone, please let me know. There's still a few numbers left for even more members! 😉

And, you can find the entire BEAD Club Membership list on the BEAD Club Wiki page. 👍
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Epi Thunderbird IV with aftermarket pickups. I want to fill and stain the PG holes rather than put the PG back on. Or maybe a clear PG with black screws. Hmmm…
Ernie Ball Cobalt Flats 65-130. Soon, a Supertone bridge.
 
I mainly gig as a drummer but I also play guitar, bass, sing and like to write songs. I was recently hired to play bass at a show with a girl singer and noticed most of her songs were written with a synth bass and many of the parts utilized the notes within a low B string. I was originally going to borrow a 5 string but then as an experiment decided to tune my 1980s MIJ Fender Precision to BEAD to see if it would even work. Success! I really like it! Silly me I thought I came up with the idea but then realized there must be others who have done this so I posted about it. @Rocket Queen set me straight right away and shared a link to this thread.

There is a definite learning curve as I've only played 4 string basses before. "Wait, the 3rd fret on the lowest string is D, not G!" It also forced me to intentionally have a lighter touch with my right hand. I believe I'm all in on BEAD. I thought I may have to buy thicker strings but all I really had to do was raise the bridge saddles a bit to compensate. The action is great and the intonation was still spot on. For my particular MIJ Fender Precision I believe this reduced tension will also help keep the neck straight. I usually have to adjust the truss rod about once a year with standard tuning. I don't know what kind of maple they were using for their bass necks in Japan back in the 1980s but this maple neck doesn't like standard tuning much anyway. It's almost as if this bass was specifically designed for BEAD. I was also surprised the regular strings weren't floppy. Just this week I ordered some Fender Flatwounds. I hated Flatwounds for guitar when I tried them but I think they will be perfect for the thick and warm bass tones I chase.

I've read every post in this thread and I have already learned a lot. Thanks!
 
I mainly gig as a drummer but I also play guitar, bass, sing and like to write songs. I was recently hired to play bass at a show with a girl singer and noticed most of her songs were written with a synth bass and many of the parts utilized the notes within a low B string. I was originally going to borrow a 5 string but then as an experiment decided to tune my 1980s MIJ Fender Precision to BEAD to see if it would even work. Success! I really like it! Silly me I thought I came up with the idea but then realized there must be others who have done this so I posted about it. @Rocket Queen set me straight right away and shared a link to this thread.

There is a definite learning curve as I've only played 4 string basses before. "Wait, the 3rd fret on the lowest string is D, not G!" It also forced me to intentionally have a lighter touch with my right hand. I believe I'm all in on BEAD. I thought I may have to buy thicker strings but all I really had to do was raise the bridge saddles a bit to compensate. The action is great and the intonation was still spot on. For my particular MIJ Fender Precision I believe this reduced tension will also help keep the neck straight. I usually have to adjust the truss rod about once a year with standard tuning. I don't know what kind of maple they were using for their bass necks in Japan back in the 1980s but this maple neck doesn't like standard tuning much anyway. It's almost as if this bass was specifically designed for BEAD. I was also surprised the regular strings weren't floppy. Just this week I ordered some Fender Flatwounds. I hated Flatwounds for guitar when I tried them but I think they will be perfect for the thick and warm bass tones I chase.

I've read every post in this thread and I have already learned a lot. Thanks!

Excellent, @Stephen DeBoard ! It's a fascinating set up on four strings. Thar application is certainly how it becomes handy.

Hope the gig goes well for you!

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... ... I was recently hired to play bass ... and noticed most of her songs ... utilized the notes within a low B string. I ... decided to tune my ... Precision to BEAD to see if it would even work. Success! I really like it! Silly me I thought I came up with the idea but then realized there must be others who have done this so I posted about it. @Rocket Queen set me straight right away and shared a link to this thread.

There is a definite learning curve as I've only played 4 string basses before. "Wait, the 3rd fret on the lowest string is D, not G!" It also forced me to intentionally have a lighter touch with my right hand. I believe I'm all in on BEAD. I thought I may have to buy thicker strings but all I really had to do was raise the bridge saddles a bit to compensate. The action is great and the intonation was still spot on. For my particular MIJ Fender Precision I believe this reduced tension will also help keep the neck straight. I usually have to adjust the truss rod about once a year with standard tuning. I don't know what kind of maple they were using for their bass necks in Japan back in the 1980s but this maple neck doesn't like standard tuning much anyway. It's almost as if this bass was specifically designed for BEAD. I was also surprised the regular strings weren't floppy. Just this week I ordered some Fender Flatwounds. I hated Flatwounds for guitar when I tried them but I think they will be perfect for the thick and warm bass tones I chase.

Welcome a new Club number! 😁

#112 @Stephen DeBoard

I'll be monitoring to add more members as they post here. If I skipped anyone, please let me know. There's still a few numbers left for even more members! 😉

... ... ... I've read every post in this thread and I have already learned a lot. Thanks!

Ah! But have you read the entire BEAD Club Membership list, or the BEAD Club Wiki page?
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#112 - Thank you! I will read the entire BEAD Club Membership list and the BEAD Club Wiki page. You have my word!

I just installed some Fender Flatwounds. I had to adjust the bridge saddle heights a bit to compensate from roundwounds to flatwounds. The tension is perfect (for me) using these medium gauge strings. I love flatwounds for bass! I immediately achieved the tone I was hoping with both volume and tone on 10. I love the playability too. I’m thinking I’m entrenched in BEAD tuning for life.
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About to set up for nomination to this club. I have a 66 Jazz Bass body and a long-held hankering for a BEAD setup. I've recently got onto a dude in the UK where I live who can do me a rosewood board 35" neck at a nice 1 11/16" width at the nut with an 88-98 neck profile carve, all I'll have to do is move the bridge back half an inch, which the body has room to do. Over the years the five strings I've tried sound better with the 35" scale, they seem to give note the full fundamental frequency range (bad description I know). Been writing tons of dub/trip hop songs in Dropped D on my P Bass but want more sub-sonic vibes without a fatass 5 string neck, and most 34" scale basses I've tried with low B on them sound way too flubby. Particularly them 34" Stingray 5's - is it just me or do they suck? I've tried a handful of them and the B seems to wallow in mudsville and feels like a slow-motion skipping rope.
 
..... is it just me or do they suck? I've tried a handful of them and the B seems to wallow in mudsville and feels like a slow-motion skipping rope.
I dunno if it's "just you" , but there are plenty of people playing 34" B strings by countless manufacturers from Fender to Sadowsky, with results that are "not too shabby" I'd say. All my basses are 34" 4 bangers set up BEAD (including 2 Stingrays) and I love the feel and sound of all of them. I use light gauge 120. B strings on all of them. Perhaps one man's slow motion skipping rope is another's piano cable?
 
I dunno if it's "just you" , but there are plenty of people playing 34" B strings by countless manufacturers from Fender to Sadowsky, with results that are "not too shabby" I'd say. All my basses are 34" 4 bangers set up BEAD (including 2 Stingrays) and I love the feel and sound of all of them. I use light gauge 120. B strings on all of them. Perhaps one man's slow motion skipping rope is another's piano cable?
It probably is just me...and if I think hard enough back when 5 strings were bloody everywhere there were plenty of expensive 35's that didn't sound great, but I do remember some of the real pricey Warwicks sounded amazing in the low B. I have been out of the loop regarding people just cutting the nut slots a bit wider and going BEAD on a 34" bass, and this thread is populated by people who have already done the thing and are happy. I bet the Stingray 5's that I played (at least 4 - two in a guitar building workshop where the proprietor handed them to me and said what do you think? He waited for me to say I thought they were not good and he agreed, and he was a scratch builder of some thirty years experience...then out of interest I played a couple more one at a friend's gig and another in a store) were just simply not great. Regardless, I am ready to order the 35" neck and shall report back soon!
 
About to set up for nomination to this club. I have a 66 Jazz Bass body and a long-held hankering for a BEAD setup. I've recently got onto a dude in the UK where I live who can do me a rosewood board 35" neck at a nice 1 11/16" width at the nut with an 88-98 neck profile carve, all I'll have to do is move the bridge back half an inch, which the body has room to do. Over the years the five strings I've tried sound better with the 35" scale, they seem to give note the full fundamental frequency range (bad description I know). Been writing tons of dub/trip hop songs in Dropped D on my P Bass but want more sub-sonic vibes without a fatass 5 string neck, and most 34" scale basses I've tried with low B on them sound way too flubby. Particularly them 34" Stingray 5's - is it just me or do they suck? I've tried a handful of them and the B seems to wallow in mudsville and feels like a slow-motion skipping rope.
Scale and strings are closely related. A 130 EBCF B is right at the edge on a Thunderbird, IME.
 
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One thing I've been doing with my bolt neck basses is shimming the heel edge of the neck by quite a bit. It gets that fatty B further away from the pickups, which helps it ring out better IMO. I play with a pick and a choingy B string drives me crazy. I may be nuts but I feel like it bumps the perceived string tension up a bit too??
 
That's kind of what I've experienced too Miles. Getting a 35" P Bass neck isn't gonna break the bank, but starting with a 34 and deciding I should have gone for 35 will...
FWIW, I have two 34" basses set up as BEAD. The P bass has a 130 Flat on for the B...the J Bass has a 135 round wound for the B. Neither are "floppy". Of the two, I like the flat better in the place where I use the BEAD basses.

Good luck!!
 
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... ... ... I'd say the string gauge you need depends on your scale length and the tension you're looking for. I believe my long scales use .130 and my short scale is .150. ... ... ...​

And it's not at all floppy. Big, yes. But not floppy.​

Scale and strings are closely related. A 130 EBCF B is right at the edge on a Thunderbird, IME.
FWIW, I have two 34" basses set up as BEAD. The P bass has a 130 Flat on for the B...the J Bass has a 135 round wound for the B. Neither are "floppy". Of the two, I like the flat better in the place where I use the BEAD basses.

Good luck!!
 
FWIW, I have two 34" basses set up as BEAD. The P bass has a 130 Flat on for the B...the J Bass has a 135 round wound for the B. Neither are "floppy". Of the two, I like the flat better in the place where I use the BEAD basses.

Good luck!!
Yeah, the B on my Thunderbird works, but if it were any less tensioned, it'd be flubbery/
 
May I join?

I mainly plays 4's but do have a Peavey C-5 Zephyr. While I love the bass I find very little use for the g in the context of the music my band so I converted one of my 3 Peavey C-4's to BEAD using Fender flatwounds.

I love flatwounds for bass after being advised to try them earlier this year by a few TB members, II immediately achieved the tone I was looking for .There wasn't any transition for me as I already played 5's, just the freedom of slightly better spacing. The C- will now become backup for this C-4

My BEAD
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With the rest of the brood
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Are there any numbers still available
 
May I join?

I mainly plays 4's but do have a Peavey C-5 Zephyr. While I love the bass I find very little use for the g in the context of the music my band so I converted one of my 3 Peavey C-4's to BEAD using Fender flatwounds.

I love flatwounds for bass after being advised to try them earlier this year by a few TB members, II immediately achieved the tone I was looking for .There wasn't any transition for me as I already played 5's, just the freedom of slightly better spacing. The C- will now become backup for this C-4

My BEAD
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With the rest of the brood
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Are there any numbers still available

Welcome a new Club number! 😁

#113 @Fullmoon1971

I'll be monitoring to add more members as they post here. If I skipped anyone, please let me know. There's still a few numbers left for even more members! 😉

And, you can find the entire BEAD Club Membership list on the BEAD Club Wiki page. 👍
 
May I join?

I mainly plays 4's but do have a Peavey C-5 Zephyr. While I love the bass I find very little use for the g in the context of the music my band so I converted one of my 3 Peavey C-4's to BEAD using Fender flatwounds.

I love flatwounds for bass after being advised to try them earlier this year by a few TB members, II immediately achieved the tone I was looking for .There wasn't any transition for me as I already played 5's, just the freedom of slightly better spacing. The C- will now become backup for this C-4

My BEAD
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With the rest of the brood
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Are there any numbers still available

That's a nice lineup!

Welcome!