Twelve String Club - 12 String Octave - Post em'

Up to two now........

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Unfortunately, neck dive is an issue for every 34" scale 12 that I have ever played. I have the Korean made CH12, and it sounds great, but is very neck heavy.

The short scale versions aren't as bad, but they have some neck dive happening too.

As far as technique, if you really want the chimey effect of the octave strings to come out, a pick works best. But I play mine fingerstyle quite a bit too.

My October 12 does not have neck dive. Check them out, they are awesome!
 
Most of these basses have the thicker string at the bottom of each set of strings. Does that make it harder to play with your fingers? Although I have never had the oportunity (yet) to play such a beast, I'd imagine that you'd stike the strings better if the thicker one was last in the plucking action.

Any feedback on this from the 12-stringers?
 
Most of these basses have the thicker string at the bottom of each set of strings. Does that make it harder to play with your fingers? Although I have never had the oportunity (yet) to play such a beast, I'd imagine that you'd stike the strings better if the thicker one was last in the plucking action.

Any feedback on this from the 12-stringers?

It presents no problem at all.
 
Last time I played one, I thought it compared reasonably well with my American B12L. The stock pickups are some kind of generic humbuckers which sounded okay, IMO. I went through two sets of EMGs (35P & 35DC) before switching to Lane Poor M3.5Ws on mine. Didn't like the harshness of the EMGs at all. My suggestion, if you don't like the stock pickups, would be Bartolini M34CB, SGD Lutherie, Q-Tuner, Villex, Lace Aluma, Delano, etc....
 
I'd suggest playing it first to see if it even needs any upgrades. As for pickups, it really depends on what you're looking for. What sort of tone are you after?

Another thing I forget to mention is that 12-strings need to be well built and carefully set up in order to be easily playable. Finding an instrument which is solid and easy to play would be my first priority. Adjusting the relief using dual truss rods can also be a bit of a challenge.
 
Yup. Setup/intonation is priority #1. IMO, you can't judge pickups until the strings & body are vibrating properly.

If other comments/reviews and my previous import-bass experiences are anything to go by, I'll probably hate the original pickups. However, I'm certainly willing to keep cash in my wallet if they turn out to be tolerable. I'm hoping to get a "Doug Pinnick with clarity" tone out of it.
 
If you're looking at the import Hamers, don't forget the Dean Rhapsody 12. It really comes down to string spacing preference/neck width preference (I haven't played an import Hamer 12 but I've played a couple of US Hamer 12s and I own the Dean), with the Hamers having tighter spacing/narrower neck and the Dean being wider.

The pickups on the Dean could probably be improved with an upgrade, but they're fine for my purposes. I get a pretty decent Doug Pinnick out of my Dean and a biamp setup.

Steve