I remember trying them when they first came out and never going back. Maybe I need to revisit them, but the C4 did basically the same things so much better.
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I remember trying them when they first came out and never going back. Maybe I need to revisit them, but the C4 did basically the same things so much better.
I'm currently using UA Volt 276
Nice interface, well constructed, solid controls, runs @ 96K, DIN MIDI, seems glitch free, sounds good.
If i had a do-over I'd consider the one channel version because I never use 2 basses at once...
Interesting...I'm due for a new iPad and don't currently have a small, portable USB-C interface.
Even if things didn't work out with RoxSyn, I'd be using the iPad and interface for other things anyway.
It can be another rathole, but with pro quality audio processing apps available for relatively small coin it's a pretty interesting one.
AUM is a great app mixer
Eventide
Fab Filter
Nembrini
Bleass
Yonac
are some of the audio developers porting to iPad
New iPads will stack a lot of apps before running out of gas.
I've been running multiple channels with increasingly positive results trying to come up with a usable rig
1 for main amp
1 for sub bass
1 for effects
1 for RoxSyn and more effects
Different compressors/EQ/filtering on each channel into a multiband compressor & limiter.
I'm still in the tweaking part.
Getting all the gains set properly so the chains don't accumulate digital gank is a work in process as is setting the channel compressors but I'm getting it, slowly but surely.
Being in a dance band that covers lots of bass synth songs, my Future Impact is what I use for that. Its awesome.
I also do own two midi basses; both have the split fret system, but I woulnt use those live. They're a bit sensitive and can ghost trigger from you moving/walking around. They're best left to studio use.
I also do own two midi basses; both have the split fret system, but I woulnt use those live. They're a bit sensitive and can ghost trigger from you moving/walking around. They're best left to studio use.
I had a terrible experience with Industrial Radio as well. Bought a used one that was available locally but had a fret that didn't respond.
I couldn't get an answer from IR even when I called in (which was a challenge as well because I live in Europe).
The tracking on mine was nowhere near as good as the videos that you can find on their YT channel. To make matters worse, I wasn't able to use the imprint technology because I bought an old model. I spent hours trying out different settings and it didn't help much.
I ended up selling the thing. I'd still consider getting one second hand if it were to be the new version and if I would get to try it before playing.
I am using a Sirin which is a Minitaur w added range. So far my search for an answer is over. I play 4 string w a D detuner and it tracks the D perfect. I recently started exploring with a pitch shifter (using a Meris Hedra) in front and it is working fantastic as well. I haven't tried the CV yet but plan to. I am using just the MIDI out and the tracking is a dream. It handles note bends and everything...just gotta dial in the unisyn right for your playing and your instrument. Super happy with the unisyn.
Someone buy my Ghost Writer!!! It's pretty cool too and at that price you can't beat it
Agree with UniSyn. I too am using it with a Moog Sirin, and the UniSyn tracks very well with MIDI, but less well with CV/Gate. I’ve also used the UniSyn with various Roland synths and the results have been excellent. I’m using a p-bass with flats. Not the instrument one would expect to play synth with, but why not?
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I had play all of the devices that you mentioned such as the GR55, SY-1000, C4 and also FI V3. They all have a very good synth sounds. The synth sound that you like does not sound right when you connect to bass amp. I was so frustrated. I finally found out that you must route your synth sound to either a keyboard amp or to front of house PA to get the synth sound correctly. I still don't like the result. I end up ordered the RoR Expressiv Bass Pro.
For what it's worth: I suspect more keyboard players use powered PA speakers than keyboard amps these days (for personal monitoring, or for the audience in the absence of a front of house PA).
Yup. For sure. I use full-range cabinets for my bass rig, and my modeling setup is designed with FOH/Monitor full-range speakers in mind, so not a problem.
I'd love to see one of the Rob O'Reilly basses in action, so I hesitate to get in line to purchase, then wait 12 months, only to figure out whether it is what I want or not ( or worth the investment). I've reached out to RO'R to see if there is anyone in my region ( Northeast USA ) who has one of the Expressiv basses so I can see/hear/play it in the flesh, but they evidently don't have anyone who can rep their products in the USA, and aren't interested in poking their user base. Oh well. If anyone out there has a lead, please do keep me in mind. THX
Thanks for the lead.
Hoping for something in New England, ideally, as I'm closer to Boston, MA.
It's occurred to me that I might be able to use some flavor of POG to add an octave up into my second channel to trigger MG2 and then transpose the MIDI down an octave.
I suppose I'll need a POG now, but I'm trying to avoid outboard gear.
Anybody with a POG already try this?
Should work, but keep in mind the POG will add significant latency on lower notes
I'll be blending the output with dry in any case. That helps hide the more latent layer.
Trying to decide if I want to spend a couple hundred bucks on the experiment.
I'll probably wait till a deal floats by...
I've heard the micro POG has the cleanest octave up so I'll give it a try.
I already have the SWAM double bass whenever I find something to drive it that won't drive me crazy...
If that works OK then on to brass & woodwinds
Thanks for the lead.
Southborough MA
Peavey MIDI Cyber Bass with Sound Module. | Reverb
Questions about the Second Sound Unisyn:
After reading your reflections here, and seeing the demos, I was not very impressed by the demos themselves. The integrated filter/synth was uninteresting, and hooking it up to the Moog was OK, but not more.
Can the Unisyn be used live (on stage), to trigger a MIDI synth module? With my current pedals (C4, FI V3, BSW, and SY-1, plus regular fuzz/octave pedals), I have no need for additional, traditional bass synths, but pianos, pads, FM synths etc would be useful and fun.
After reading your reflections here, and seeing the demos, I was not very impressed by the demos themselves. The integrated filter/synth was uninteresting, and hooking it up to the Moog was OK, but not more.
Can the Unisyn be used live (on stage), to trigger a MIDI synth module? With my current pedals (C4, FI V3, BSW, and SY-1, plus regular fuzz/octave pedals), I have no need for additional, traditional bass synths, but pianos, pads, FM synths etc would be useful and fun.
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Just keep in mind the Unisyn is monophonic, so pretty limiting for something like a piano, etc. What makes the Roland system special IMO is having full polyphonic processing, which is something much more difficult to implement reliable tracking for without individually processed strings