Feedback on speaker cabinets wanted

#61
hey guys,

i just got back from fuchs audio this morning, tried their amps.

the cabinets are really nice. they were prototypes i played, but i doubt you can get a 'better' cab from mesa, genzler, berg, whoever. they sounded really nice and made a lot of sound for a reasonably small box.

i played the 2x10. it's a fantastic cabinet.

i'll post amp thoughts in the other thread.
 
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#62
The first thing I look at in a cab is weight. If it's too heavy it doesn't even make it to the "maybe" phase so, take that for whatever it's worth.
 
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rufus.K said:
Ill not go back to ceramics based on weight. Lite is the new name of the game, the bar is set really high these days for loud/light/low.

I haven't had a bass cab with Celestions in.... maybe never. It screams "guitar" to me, and I acknowledge its a bias, one which works against it as a selling point. Its shouldnt matter. The Jenson/Sica stuff is amazing right now also. From your list, Eminence.

I have plenty of single cabs that are 8ohm. (read: 1x12). Im in the market for a 2x12 thats 4ohm.
I love my Aguilar TH500, but it pushing a single 8ohm 12" speaker isnt enough. When I drive it with a Bergantino Forte HP2 (about 600w at 8ohm) I can make that single 12 loud/full enough for what I do.
Ive often thought a 4ohm single 12" with a decent thermal rating would be great, maximize clean output from my prefered head.
I wouldnt buy an 8ohm 2x12, as I have multiple 8ohm 1x12"s.
More and more amps can handle 2.66 or 2hom loads these days, and its only become more common - makes 4ohm versions more and more attractive.
If I were to buy a 2x10, I would want a 4ohm personally. I can see how an 8ohm would be attractive to many as well.
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@rufus.K, take a look at this.

DG212N – Darkglass Electronics
 
#64
Stoked to hear you are looking into making a fresh 210! Sorry I'm late to the party.

I'm just a hobbyist that plays at church and in a little classic rock band. I currently carry around some mix of 2x 112 GK Neo II cabs, Mesa Subway 115/210 cabs, or a Trace Elliott Elf 110 cab to gigs 2-4x month. I think I might be in your target market.

I like some things about all of my cabs, but definitely wish I could build my "dream cab." Like many of the older crowd, I have back injuries and spend buttloads of cash in search of good sound and light weight.

I absolutely love my Subway 210 cab, and think it is the most complete single-cab solutions I own for throwing into any musical situation. The Subway 115 is definitely my "rock" cab. But the cube form factor of the Subways wears on me. They are definitely a "both hands" schlep. I like the taller/thinner profile of the GK Neo 112 cabs for carrying around. I can grab one of those in each hand and go! I hate to admit it, but for load-in/load-out reasons alone, the GKs often get the gig even though I think the Subways sound better.

My favorite gigging amp these days is my Tone Hammer 500, even above my GK Legacy 800 and Mesa TT800. I would LOVE a vertical 210 that could handle everything that TH500 can put out. I'd also like to extract the most from smaller amps like a D350, Gnome iPro, or similar. A 4ohm option in the 500-600w handling range would be GREAT. I know the drivers exist that could handle that, as the Subway 210 and Elf 110 are both rated at 300w/driver.

The Subway 210 is a friggin' beast. I totally understand the design goal of going with a standard width across all the cabs for mix 'n match stacking purposes, but MAN I wish it were vertical instead of a cube.

Regarding carrying: handle location/type is HUGE. I love the way the Trace Elliott has the rear carry bar. I have been very tempted to grab the Trace 2x8, and still may. Whatever you can do to make the carrying easier would be awesome.

I also like something that ends up being useful for running cable through to reduce potential for unexpected amp spills, etc. That can be a simple exposed fixed handle (like in a recessed grab bar situation) or sprung extendable grab bars/handles.

Interlocking feet are a plus. I like the way the GK's plastic feet lock into each other when stacked, and the little "cups" make for a great place to put a couple picks where they won't vibrate off and onto the floor in the middle of the first song of every set, haha!

I don't care about driver brand. I know they'll have to be good to handle 250-300w each, and I trust you won't turn out something that sounds like crap.
 
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#65
SJan3 said:
Respectfully, for some of us who are older with health issues, it's not about being lazy.
It's about being able to continue on. Light weight gear is a beautiful thing, especially at the end of the night.
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Is it me, or does gear get heavier as you play it ? I swear my rig is heavier at the end of the night !
 
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