Hard cases now non essential?

Ps - last time I flew international with a bass, I used a regular plastic style hard case. It arrived at the destination with the bass fully intact, however one of the case's feet got torn off (?!) and about a 2" hole exposing the foam inside. The bass and case didn't take the return trip with me but I would have done it if I had to. A flight case would have been ideal. (The bass cost me $200 used, and I couldn't afford a flight case at the time. I actually tried to carry it on the plane to store in the "captain's closet" on the plane, but they didn't have room and made me check it at the plane.)

I have been very impressed with the expensive heavily padded gig bags. They just don't stack at nicely in my closet.

I also have a gig-case? Its a foam lightweight case with a fabric and a zipper. And it has a shoulder strap. Its actually kinda neat. Rectangular so it stacks like a hard case, but lightweight like a gig bag.
 
My Gibson T'Bird's hard case would only get used if I needed to ship the bass somewhere. I use a Mono M80 bag with additional terry cloth pads encasing the neck and headstock and I've had no problems with this setup. As good as the Mono bag is, I still treat the bass with great care when I'm transporting it - those T'Bird necks are notorious for cracking around the headstock.
 
My opinion..
a Well paded gig bag is a giving!! Comfort/ convinience not to mention pretty Kool looking!
Now a Hard case VS a flight case ?
A hard case will do just fine on your average every day gig ! A fight case makes sense if in a touring Band and your forced to put your Bass in the storage compartment of a plan/bus / train etc. Hard case for your average car trunk / back seat is fine! + the bass logo on a hard case looks real kool too!:)
 
Playing local shows I use the hard case that came with my main bass. They usually get stacked up against the wall and I wouldn't trust a gig bag for that. And we just pile all the equipment into two SUV's, I can stash my hardcase on the side rather than it being stacked. For touring, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned these types of tour cases. They're cheaper than two flight cases.

Well, I am not surprised nobody has mentioned it. The thread was mainly about what comes with the bass when buying it new. Maybe they'll ship a thing like that if you buy 5-6 Fenders you get this one thrown in. Plus a 12 DVD box set with directors cut of Games Of Thrones, with unreleased material. ;)

The thread was about, when buying high-end, or the more expensive end of the line, if it passes a certain point, you definitely not want a soft gig bag to come with it (any), you feel it's insufficeint for protection, but you feel like the old vinyl/tolex kind of hard case doesn't do that too. You want to ramp that one up as well. The cases doesn't follow the value it's supposed to protect. I don't mean that if you buy an all graphite headless Steinberger or Status bass, you'll get a grocery store plastic bag with it, but as far as I recall they just came with the gig bags, and when swung over your shoulder they just looked like a.... ahemmm...rifle. That's some security, and gives a protection don't you think?:wacky: If anyone tries to rob you..."is it a Steiny or is it a rifle?...take a guess..";)

What I thought about, that the cases doesn't follow the prices on basses when they go up. They just stay at one level. If there's a regular hard case in the old tolex/vinyl style for a 1 K bass, there's the same with a 4-5 K boutique custom bass. Maybe the facade and superficial desgin and logos is worked on, but not really the protection. I remember Babicz signature guitars (acostic) had initially offered a very special hard case of the molded thing, with hydrometers and temperature meters built in on the top. To vigilantly watch the inner temperature and moisture all of the time. After a very short while they stopped doing that because it did nothing in terms of protection really. That case was a fortune, too. Spending and wasting.

I just think that square hard cases like the regular ones are as unwieldy and bumps into walls as easily as flight cases. As one said, bumping a flight case into a wall is unwise. But I've found I whack corners of a regular hard cases into more things as well, than ANY soft gig bag, MONO. If you avoid bumping anything (gig bag, case) into anything it's protected. I e the handling and normal operation of a gig bag (say a high quality one) sort of lends itself to non bumping into things because there are no square corners. It has - though - come forward on thing in this thread which I find intriguing. The risk of "leaning" the bass against anything, as you have to do with gig bags. But it's not really so that the tuners goes one quarter away. I've actually seen quite a few hard cases that came with the bass where you really have to turn on the tuners of your P or J bass first before it can be laid down properly in the case. Beats me. But it was for keeping your tuning skills up, maybe. But eventually they got wind of it, and made those cases a little bit deeper.

I would love to have some kind of case, where the stand is built in. So whenever you put away your bass, it's in the case as well as a stand. My opinion is that any instrument on any stand on the floor are the most unprotected thing there is for any instrument. Naked and exposing it to all things, just to be able to show it off to the audience. But we digress now...I ususall do cram my soft gig bag (MONO) which can be set to stand up without folding or any bass in it, into a corner behind the combo amp, so the combo forms a distance protection and when the breaks within sets comes I just squeeze the bass in there from above, so it resides there as a stand. It cannot tip over in any direction. It makes the bass stand right straight up without leaning against a wall. A hard case would not allow this at all.
 
I need a case for Carrots...

Look no further! There's flight cases for everything! Should there be one for cigars, they should work just as well for carrots, your prayers has been heard!;)


iSeries 0702-1 Watertight Cigar Case | SKB Industrial / Military

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For most gigging purposes I use flightcases.
We usually carry lots of gear, stacked up in a van & trailer, share stages with a couple of bands, have stagehands who don't care that much besides of getting gear in and out.
For rehearsing, a gigbag will do anyway.
 
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Wrong! So much for intuition.
Flight case is not a brand name. Neither are soft gig bags. Neither are the regular tolex/vinyl ones. There are several companies building flight cases. Well made too. The photographer one, seemed to tell a - great - story about his experiences with a certain brand of cases. Favorably. There are others than MONO gig bags, and the SKB, Pelican, Gator cases.

Since some here did defend the regular hard case, and mentioned that it sure has its "niched" scenarios where neither a gig bag will do and a flight case is overkill, I would love to think that when selling upper scale basses, you could just as well throw one if these Pelican, SKB molded "flight cases" to go with it instead. Just make them stick your brand to it. On the other hand, I don't want to brag or SHOW which brand of bass I have inside. Take a guess which is much worth stealing? A case that says Dingwall Prima Artist or just...Pelican...or SKB? It can be a Cort or Squier inside...;)
 
Anyone that uses all three for the same bass?

1. Flight case when doing large touring nationwide?
2. Store it in its original hard case under the bed, when residing at home (no racks, or stands, or wall mounts)?
3. Then bring it out and stow it in the gig bag just when rehearsing?
 
I grew up on blow molded peavey cases and never had any problems with protection. I have never beat a bass up in a plain old hard case. IME if you transport your bass a lot in an equipment trailer/van, or even your POV, a plain old hard case is pretty much essential to avoid dinging up your basses. As for lacking protection, i've seen a strat in a black plastic Fender case backed over by a car and the guitar survived. The case was DOA, but the instrument within was unscathed.

I also owned an Anvil custom made flight case and it was a major PITA to haul around compared to you garden variety hard case.

Tried gig bags and liked them well enough to keep some of my seldom used basses in them, until i accidentally stepped on one and cracked the neck. I still use a gig bag for my beater bass because it's already beat to hell so i just don't lay it down where it can get stepped on and don't worry about it maybe getting a few more battle scars.

These days i've got three SKB 44 bass cases that i use as needed, some old cases that some of my basses came in and a few assorted gig bags that also came with basses i've bought. I use the old cases and bags for storage, but whenever i pack to go out of town it's almost always a couple of the SKB 44 cases. For local i'll also use the 44 case for the nicer basses, but for some odd reason i won't put my old beater bass in anything but a gig bag these days.
 
For my local transportation and gigging needs, I was seriously looking at the Mono, but I'm so glad I came across this GigBlade by GruvGear.

I'd still love to check out a Mono, just because I love geeking out on gear, but this side carry case really is awesome. I love how it's center of gravity is so close to the ground. And it has lots of space for extras!
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I totally agree. I've always maintained that hard cases are useless unless they have good padding inside them. If you have any kind of hard shell, and you hit it hard with something, the shock is just going to translate directly to whatever's inside. Plus, the cargo's going to bang against a hard surface if it's not secured well inside.

For this reason, I think that a well-padded gig bag actually provides better protection than a flimsy hard case with minimal padding. Granted, the gig bag can't have anything heavy stacked on top of it, but this isn't a problem for short-distance travel where you can monitor the cargo yourself. The gig bag will probably also be a bit lighter, which will lessen the impact if it's dropped (and also make people less likely to drop it).

On the other hand, flight cases are the best of both worlds - lots of padding, and a hard shell. The only issue is weight, but this is a reasonable compromise when flying, sailing, or travelling by bus/truck.

If you're just travelling locally (rehearsals, recordings, etc), you shouldn't need anything more than a solid gig bag, and flight cases provide ideal protection for situations where baggage handlers and port workers will be throwing your equipment around (or stacking crates on top of it). This is why I currently only own a Mono M80 Double big bag, and am planning to buy a Rockcase Multi-Bass flight case - I'm covering both ends of the spectrum. The conventional hard case fits somewhere in the middle of this spectrum, but it's ultimately pointless because you can just start with a really good gig bag and get a flight case later (as you're not likely to be touring within the first few years of learning to play).

Another reason I like gig bags and flight cases is that they let you carry multiple basses in one case. I've been carrying 2 basses for years, as I don't always have time to change strings and I've had electronics die on me at rehearsals. You just never know what's going to happen, so it pays to have spares of EVERYTHING. It's great that more companies are making double gig bags these days (Mono and Gator in particular), and there are a few that make flight cases for 3+ basses. It seems like musicians are getting more savvy about operating efficiently, and it is A LOT cheaper to carry a single 3-guitar flight case than 3 individual flight cases (both in terms of weight and space). I've seen a few bands using Scott Dixon flight cases, which seem to be the industry standard for those who can afford them as they're top quality.

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I have grown to appreciate the hardcase art, it is functional, but is is so cool to open up that case and see the guitar sitting in it.
A Fender tweed with yellow padding is just so cool, it is a work of art in itself.....that work of art may get lost if ot becomes just about functionality.

On eo the cool things about vinyl LPs was their size, OK not handy or functional to carry about, but lets look at the artwork and layout......You see a CD is functional, but not a work of art, you cannot get that detail within the artwork because it is to small.
The layout of the back cover is minimal, to small to read, so little booklets inside the CD detail the infor.
With the LP the back cover done this as did the inner sleeve notes.....again this was functional and artistic...Roger Dean on a CD cover id mot the same a Roger Dean on an LP.

So for me i love the hardcase in all its forms, but the covered hardcase should be seen as part of the artistic process, after all somebody walking in to a gig with a black canvas bag hanging of their back, is not same wow factor as someone with say swinging a Snakeskin hardcase in my book.