Jeff Berlin asks - What Is Taught Without Only Teaching the Facts!

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Son of Wobble said:
@JeffBerlin - If you did not exist, Sir, Talk Bass would be obliged to invent you. 47 pages! And still I am not certain just how many angels can dance on the ball end of a TI Jazz Flat.
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Amazing how people want to express their opinions. But, I feel that it is deeper than that. I am pretty much alone and entirely contrary to how practically all bass players and practically all bass teachers think. This alone has to provoke some people into commenting and explaining their thoughts. The problem is that few thoughts translates into playing reality. They mostly are suppositions. What I try to communicate, isn't.
 
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Metronome vs no metronome is very interesting, but I am more interested to get a few pointers on important stuff. Guess I'll need to pay for Jeff's lessons to get that-- which I am sure are well worth the price. I did recently enjoy/benefit from a vid I saw on Youtube (I think) from Jeff (at his Fla. academy) about how to use diminished chord tones in a manner that doesn't sound so stereotypically diminished-y ( e.g., a consecutive run of minor thirds). Jeff's got a LOT of very worthwhile knowledge, I don't get everyone's obsession with the metronome thing (and I sometimes use one, for specific objectives). I'd listen intently to anything Jeff wanted to say.
 
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JeffBerlin said:
Amazing how people want to express their opinions. But, I feel that it is deeper than that. I am pretty much alone and entirely contrary to how practically all bass players and practically all bass teachers think.
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I would dispute this. I’ve studied for various periods with six different bass instructors, knee-to-knee, and they all espoused an approach similar to yours. However, most had formal training themselves, just as you did.
 
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Downsman said:
This may be a really dumb question, and might miss the point you're making completely, but why can't you just tap your foot while you're playing? That's what I do. While I'm working a song out I'll probably go slowly and actually think "one ee and uh, two ee and uh" and then come in on the "uh" for example. Then gradually start tapping my foot faster till I'm closer to the speed I want to play at while still keeping the feel. I don't quite get why it would help to have a metronome doing that as the drummer won't be playing as precisely as the metronome anyway, and he's the one I need to be in sync with. No point me playing it at a perfect 120bpm if he's playing at 118. All the metronome does for me is stress me out and make me feel like I've failed if I fall behind.
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I think a lot of the books I studied from 25+ years ago told me to do exactly that (tap my foot). Isn’t up to me to know and remember where “one” is, vs. using a metronome which tells me where it’s at?
 
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@JeffBerlin I'm looking at you book A Comprehensive Chord Tone System for Mastering the Bass.

Should I play these chord arpeggios in all keys?

(What about the tab? Should I follow the fingerings on the tabs or just play at whatever position feels reasonable?) Edit: Reading just a bit further I got the point.
 
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@JeffBerlin's thesis, that you learn bass,.From playing music, after 19 pages in this thread, that was the way I was taught, just about every book I use has music, my junior high orchestra teacher used this approach in the mid sixties. I guess , I've been using your method off and on for over 50 years
 
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