Please tell me im overthinking things...

I was going to glibly say "yeah, you're overthinking it" just based on the length of your post, without reading it. But I did read it. Regardless of your talent or skill level, regardless of the past contributions you may have made, it appears you really just want to jam and not do the heavy lifting - practice and rehearsal. And it may well be that as a band they've evolved in a different direction than you want to go. In fact, you stated that was an issue from jump. You want to play Lou Reed, Dead, stuff like that. They didn't. Find like-minded people. And practice the tunes. And rehearse the tunes. And commit. I've played with a lot of folks and while we have often gone our separate ways and sometimes reconnected again musically we are by and large still friends but no longer bandmates. It's OK. So, yes, you're overthinking it.

The Bar Band Bassman
 
Sounds like you have some hurt feelings. You connected some musicians and they have a thing going. That’s great. You had stuff to take care of that I was assume important or at least a priority at the time. That’s great too. I don’t think they owe you anything or at least I would not feel like they owe me anything. If you enjoy bass keep at it. Sounds like you still get to jam with them. Sounds like they have alot of musicians. Maybe something might branch out from there. Good luck.
 
I got fired from my first job that way. I showed up one day and there was someone already there doing my job! It took a minute to put 2 and 2 together, but when it finally hit me I just walked out quietly and never looked back.

In your situation, it's time for a talk with the other band leaders. Say, "hey I thought I was going to be the bass player but then I showed up one day and someone else is playing bass. Do you still want me involved, or should I go join another band?"
 
Life is too short for drama. Forget what other ppl think, this is out of your control and will not change you one iotta. This goes both ways, so don't bother about what they think about what are you thinking.
Just to do your best at all times and move on, put a Craiglist ad to find ppl with similar vibes and have a new band. This is probably the best thing that happened to you, but you will realize this in a few years.
PS: Practice, practice and keep on practicing, to the point that if you run into these mates they'd say: "Shoot, we should had kept him in the band".
 
OK, I'll be honest I skipped over some of the wall of text, but it sounds like there was a band and you basically decided to jump on stage with another bass player already there and insert yourself, and they sent you away?

Well, don't do that.
 
Sounds like you "Pete Bested" yourself out of this group. If I'm reading it right, you lately haven't done much beyond show up when you feel like it and try to follow along with what everyone else is doing.

I promise you that the others notice who does and doesn't participate and to what level, and since you haven't been around all that much and don't learn the material they have no reason to take you seriously as a band member. You are like a fly who flits around and does whatever it feels like doing when it wants to, and they're trying to be more organized than this so you being a fly is turning into a bit of a nuisance. They're now swatting you away but no one has had the courtesy to explain this to you.

It's maybe nobody's fault that the group may have morphed from something very casual when you started to something more organized now, but you haven't shown interest in being organized, so this is not surprising.

I think it's time for you to find a new group of players who want to just jam the way you do. Were I in your shoes I'd just bow out gracefully while accepting the reality that things changed quite a lot while I was not around to notice.
 
first time i have posted here in a while! im glad i could remember my login and that TB is still around!! anyway...

ill try and keep this brief. many years ago i started playing w/ some friends and this last year we finally hooked up with some new great guys, who also sing! something that we hadn't really had yet. plenty of musicians, but no singers. anyway, i wasn't around when these new guys started jamming b/c i had some personal stuff going on, but all that gets settled and i come over to jam. i had fun, it was wonderful that these guys gave the group some focus and direction to learn whole songs and honestly things sounded great. buutt..i kinda felt like a 7th wheel. theres already 3/4/5 guitarists/bass/drums, so where does that leave me?

but i figured if i kept practicing w/ them its a perfect chance to practice some 'bobby weir' type rhythm given that the 'musical spectrum' is kinda crowed. then my job changes and now i can only come out n practice like once a month if that.

getting long so ill try n wrap it up. so time comes for our first gig, and im stoked. i just love playing, even if i totally dont know the songs, i think of it as a great chance to put ear training/chord voicing/etc to practice. ive been playing a long ass time so jumping into stuff i dont know font and back doesn't bother me, in fact its nice to work out new stuff to fit in w/ the group. the day before the show one of the singers comes in to my work and im all 'whats up bro, tomorrows going to be awesome! hope the weather is nice!'

and he kinda gives this taken aback look and says something like 'yeah, yeah, if we have time i guess you could play or something, we'll see'. I cant remember exactly what he said, but needless to say I wasn't expecting something so...rude...or just off putting. even my co-worker was like '*** was that'. and whats wrong w/ me playing in the group i help start? kinda took the wind outta my sails and fed more into 'im being pete bested out of the band'

ill end w/ this. there's friend of mine i brought around after i got my friends to start playing. i bring over this buddy who absolutely KILLS it on guitar! wonderful jazz chords, incredible tasteful solos, can shred w/ soul. just an incredible player and everyone raves about him....but like now that im being pushed out i kinda think 'gee if i didnt bring over my bro, you guys wouldnt even know about him', and also cant help but think 'i influenced everyone here to start playing and now that we're finally doing shows i'm kinda like...floating in the wind' cause literally, everyone bought guitars and i helped them get stated years ago b/c i was always playing drunk at parties lmao.

dont take this the wrong way. i am so happy for them, i just wanted to put my thoughts into writing b/c its been on my mind for some time. i also know i did this myself. if i had made more of an effort into fitting into this from the beginning it wouldn't feel so...'unnatural' now? maybe not the right word. and the burner, they had a show this last week and nobody even bothered to tell me about it so i could take it off work like i did the first show. that hurt honestly. second time this has happened.

once again im really not trying to sound like a bitch. just venting and maybe people can give me some insight and tell me im just overthinking everything ( which i think/hope i am).. but silver lining///i wanna start finally practicing singing, and get another group together to play more like minded material. ive always wanted to do JGB/GD/Neil Young/Lou Reed/etc covers, but since i couldnt sing, and nobody else i played w/ liked that music i never bothered trying to get my mates to practice any of those tunes over the years. maybe i should have been more of a director. which a mutual friend of ours told me years back when i was letting off steam about the lack of direction w/ our music.

okay rant over, any advice is welcome. am i just too in my own head? and once again, i am happy about things, i just wish i was more included. and not even being told about the last couple shows really got me thinking about things.
There is playing together as friends to play a little music. Then there is playing together to play out and gig.

I think your situation has moved on to phase II.

;)
 
Man, I've been in a few bands where there was one person who was really only half-in. It sounds like you understand that that person is you in this instance.

It is unfair to the players who are rehearsing regularly, putting in the work to learn the songs and trying to move forward together for the half-in person to continue to stake a claim to the group as if they should be able to float in and out at will. You would do well to find a group of players who want to play, but don't have the time to do anything more than a casual jam when time permits.

Sometimes, no matter how good you are as a player, the best ability is still availability and it sounds like you don't have that. Be cool, wish them well and step away. Good luck
 
Sounds like you were absent for a few band meetings. Also sounds like no one told you they decided to move on with a different bass player.

It also sounds like you spend a lot of time in your head. Have you talked to the band about this? Was the singer even in a position to tell you you're not in the band?
 
$1 in 2000 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1.77 in 2023
Charge 177% what you did
or double the original fee (you have more talent now)

Sounds like they have a stage full of musicians, including bass...

and you don't know the material, just want to jam on top of it for fun.

Not trying to offend, but I can't imagine why you think you should be there. :)

^^^^This.
And you said something like you were always playing drunk at parties. It sounds like you have more red flags than they do, no offense.
 
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