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I got the Mesa Walkabout 12 combo with the 15 extension cab. 300w of Mesa goodness - does me quite nicely...

When I was last up there Alex showed me a Mark Bass head coupled to an Agi 1x12 cab - most impressive!

I tried a Walkabout 1x12 combo a while back. Really liked it with a variety of basses, but unfortunately it didn't work with my Rics. A shame because I thought it was a really cool unit. I was really looking forward to downsizing!

I was hoping to borrow my friend's Markbass head to try through my Aguilars last night, but it was unfortunately unavailable. And with six weeks til the next rehearsal (drummer and singer following each other on holiday), I'm not going to get chance to rehearse with it for a while. :bawl:
 
Hey Shaun

You'll be pleased to hear I sold my HD350 incredibly quickly over at Bass Chat - I'm still awaiting payment and will have to ship it to Birmingham but the deal is done - sorry to hear you are in a bt of a spot with your amps and a possible alternative. Hang in there dude - you'll get it sorted - I think you'll like the Mark Bass it does sound genuinely good and is a bit warmer sounding than the EBS gear - it will hopefully giove you the best of both worlds.

Paddy - that sounds like a cool set up dude - I'm still not sure I'll ever need all 600 watts of Epi power - but hey I look forward to the day I do!

Cheers

M
 
I use an Accoustic Image Clarus into 2 Accugroove Tri112L's. This set up was brought after getting my fretless and is simply wonderful with both the Piezo's and Kents.

The fretted came along later and sounds fantastic even with it being straight to jack. The only time it comes unstuck a little is when I slap on the fretted. The minimal EQ on the Clarus really isn't enough to get a really great slap sound on a bass with no pre so I just have to make do. It sounds great on the Low B and E and A strings but the D,G,C,F need more mid range and Treble to even them up. However as I play fingerstyle 99% of the time I am not to concerned.

I do wish for more power so if, or when, funds allow then I will test the AI Focus against the Epi 502 v Aggie 500 v Thunderfunk.

Regards

Matthew

ps. I do really like Epi gear especially the UL series!
 
Hey Shaun

You'll be pleased to hear I sold my HD350 incredibly quickly over at Bass Chat - I'm still awaiting payment and will have to ship it to Birmingham but the deal is done - sorry to hear you are in a bt of a spot with your amps and a possible alternative. Hang in there dude - you'll get it sorted - I think you'll like the Mark Bass it does sound genuinely good and is a bit warmer sounding than the EBS gear - it will hopefully giove you the best of both worlds.

Paddy - that sounds like a cool set up dude - I'm still not sure I'll ever need all 600 watts of Epi power - but hey I look forward to the day I do!

Cheers

M

Hey Mike, that's great news, glad to hear you sold it so quickly. Wish I could've got it but there you go. You shouldn't feel too sorry for me; if I got rid of a bass I could maybe change my amp (or get another) but I have my small collection of 5 just where I want it; it's taken 26 years so I'm loathe to sell anything now unless I absolutely have to. So I guess it's my own fault!

Hopefully I'll try my mate's Markbass and see what that's like at rehearsal (unfortunately it means little on its own as we all know). Only thing I'm a bit worried about is I've tried a couple of Markbass combos and found them a bit lacking in character (2x10 and Jeff Berlin). They seemed to have no growl or grit at all, but then they both had tweeters which you couldn't adjust which is no good for me, playing as I do. I tend to turn tweeters all the way off for most uses.

Matthew, a while back I tried an Accugroove 1x10 with an Ashdown Superfly; my '73 Ric 4000 (and a Warwick Thumb 5 for that matter) sounded incredible through it and dusted a whole shop full of Marleauxs and loads of different amp set-ups. I thought the cab was spectacular, if a bit pricey. One day maybe. Although I'd need at least two....
 
I use an Aguilar DB680 preamp through a 1,200 wtt Chevin Stereo power amp, running into a couple of Accugroove Tri210L cabs - covers the whole sonic spectrum while remaining extremely focussed.

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The "Markbass lacking in character" comment was a bit of a surprise. I've been using their gear for a while now- for fretted bass (especially slap) I put an Alembic F2B preamp in front (picked up for $50 at a local junk shop-gotta love Japan!), which sounds great with Spectors/ Stingrays & terrifying with a Status Empathy, but I'll always go straight to the Mark' for fretless. Considering that I prefer to keep most of the amps tone knobs at 12.00, the two tone shaping knobs are really useful- even without the Alembic pre-, dialling in the VPF gives a great slap tone, & the VLF works great for taking some of the zing out of fretless sounds.
Each to his own though- I daresay that if I could afford Epifani gear I'd be singing its praises right now.............
 
The "Markbass lacking in character" comment was a bit of a surprise. I've been using their gear for a while now- for fretted bass (especially slap) I put an Alembic F2B preamp in front (picked up for $50 at a local junk shop-gotta love Japan!), which sounds great with Spectors/ Stingrays & terrifying with a Status Empathy, but I'll always go straight to the Mark' for fretless. Considering that I prefer to keep most of the amps tone knobs at 12.00, the two tone shaping knobs are really useful- even without the Alembic pre-, dialling in the VPF gives a great slap tone, & the VLF works great for taking some of the zing out of fretless sounds.
Each to his own though- I daresay that if I could afford Epifani gear I'd be singing its praises right now.............

Hi Dutchwife! I can only comment on the gear I've tried and the basses I've tried through it.

When I tried the Jeff Berlin combo, the sales guy was singing its praises saying how neutral it was. My more jazzy/funky noodles (I'm not that much of a slapper BTW, although I love the style) are more or less confined to my Sei and Alembic, neither of which I've tried through Markbass. What I have tried through the 2x10 are my '72 Rick 4001, a Sei Offset 5 (not mine), and a Jaydee Supernatural amongst others. Through the JB combo I tried my '73 Ric 4000, a Warwick Thumb 5 through-neck, various Marleauxs and Overwaters, a Stingray, a Jazz, Warwick Streamer Stage 1 4 and 5s and a DoubleBuck, plus a few miscellaneous others. I couldn't get a sound out of any of them that I was really happy with, although bear in mind I haven't tried either amp in a band situation.

Here I have to clarify; I play rather quirkily (as Martin points out just about every time I'm at the Gallery, LOL!); I use a plectrum, rather like a guitarist would, and this presents me with a whole different set of sonic problems when it comes to choosing an amp/cab. Tweeters are for the most part out, as already stated; I generally get enough clarity from the plectrum. Also, I'm not really aiming for what I would consider to be a very clean, smooth sound, which is all I could seem to get from these particular Markbasses. Bear in mind the way I play will have a great deal of bearing on this and I'm by no means saying that someone else would get the same results; they seldom do in my experience!

In terms of a jazzy tone, if you check out Youtube for examples, I love Matt Garrison's sound (growly, punchy and aggressive) and Leigh/Leroy Gorman's sound (bassist in Bow Wow Wow - not strictly a jazzy tone but you know what I mean) but find Dave Marks's sound (although he's a great player) far cleaner and thinner than what I'm aiming for; same with Jeff Berlin and (dare I say it?) Marcus (although certainly not the thin part...).

In terms of a rock sound (which after all is what I'm playing most of the time), I love Squire, Enwistle, Glenn Hughes on Deep Purple's Made in Europe etc, a big, aggressive, slightly distorted tone (although ironically I find I don't actually need to have distortion to approximate that sound, assuming the amp is aggressive enough; in fact I've had poor results with Marshall and Ampeg and the best results with Trace Elliot. I have no idea why! Again, the way I play I guess. as Leigh Gorman also used Trace I guess I shouldn't be surprised. So, if you said that for Jazzy stuff I was looking at maybe a slightly bigger, twangier version of Matt, and for rock stuff I was looking at an Entwistle/Squire kind of thing, you wouldn't be far away. Unfortunately I've struggled to get either from my limited Markbass experience.

After saying all that, the friend who has the Markbass head loves it and plays it through 2 Aguilars the same as mine, which is why I'm hoping to try it. He also uses various basses including Ric/Status and MM (although he also gets the best Ric sound through Trace; he bought my old gear he was so impressed, as is everyone he uses it with).

By far the best sound I've had from my Sei was through the EBS gear in the Gallery (650 and 1x15?). Unfortunately I played my Ric 4001CS through the same gear and struggled to get a tone I liked; I'd be happy to have two rigs if I could afford them but unfortunately at the moment I can't afford it. I'm therefore on the lookout for anything that will do both jobs, and I guess the Markbass is an option, altough I would love to get some EBS if only for my Sei. I would've loved to have bought Mike's if I could've got the cash together. One thing that did occur to me last night was that I could get something like an EBS at some stage and use a sansamp for the Rics.....

Anyway, enough of me. Back to other people's gear!!
 
I will stick in my 2pence worth about Markbass. I will caveat it by IMHO YMMV etc etc

I was very disappointed by it. I tried the LM11 and a more powerful Mark bass amp but can't remember it's details.

Being used to the openness of the Accoustic Image the Markbass sounded thin, and if I tried to correct this with the eq and 'magic buttons' I ended up with another area of the sound being not to my liking.

It is the only 'decent' amp which I can think of, out of which I couldn't get a great or at least useable sound.

I had gone to the shop ready to buy a Markbass and demoed the amps for over 2 hours using my fretless 7 Sei and went away empty handed. It wasn't even a close decision. I knew if I got one it would be resold very quickly.

Please do not think this is a flame because it is not, it was just what I found. I know the amps sell like hot cakes so it could just be me that is wrong, but I would seriously advise people to give it a long hard demo berore they buying using their cabs and basses and if possible taking their own amp along as a sound reference.


Regards

Matthew
 
I play my Sei through what is probably complete overkill for just practice. Jezebel goes through an ART Nightbass SE (which has the huge Ultrafoot controller) into a Trace Elliott boxer 15 amp.

I still plan to book some time at a local rehearsal room, just to use my live rig which doesn't get much use nowadays. Trace SMX350 into an ex-Mark King Mesa-Boogie road-ready 1x15.

I would like, though, to get some words of advice from you guys !!

What I'm finding (I'm really nit-picking on this) is that sometimes the sound in the mid-range of my Sei gets a touch nasally.

Jezebel is going back to Sei HQ when I next go to London to have a high fret seen to and the coil-tap button secured, which should all be extremely straightforward.

I'm wondering what to do about the sometimes nasally tone which is kind of bugging me. Martin has always said if anything needed changing "it's just a matter of drilling holes", so I have no worries there and we decided to rout the control compartment in case anything needed to be changed.

I'm going to try to write a patch on the ART eq-ing the problem out. Other than that I suppose I have two choices: either change/rewind the pickup or add a preamp.

I don't have a problem going back on my original thoughts of 1 pickup, 1 volume if that's what it comes to. I'm big enough to say "that didn't quite work and/or it's not totally for me" and do something about it !!

I have to stress that I am really focussing on and analysing a tiny part of the bass' performance. Whatever I decide, I know that Martin will have no problem making alterations to this 'Saville Row' of a bass...
 
I will stick in my 2pence worth about Markbass. I will caveat it by IMHO YMMV etc etc

I was very disappointed by it. I tried the LM11 and a more powerful Mark bass amp but can't remember it's details.

Being used to the openness of the Accoustic Image the Markbass sounded thin, and if I tried to correct this with the eq and 'magic buttons' I ended up with another area of the sound being not to my liking.

It is the only 'decent' amp which I can think of, out of which I couldn't get a great or at least useable sound.

I had gone to the shop ready to buy a Markbass and demoed the amps for over 2 hours using my fretless 7 Sei and went away empty handed. It wasn't even a close decision. I knew if I got one it would be resold very quickly.

Please do not think this is a flame because it is not, it was just what I found. I know the amps sell like hot cakes so it could just be me that is wrong, but I would seriously advise people to give it a long hard demo berore they buying using their cabs and basses and if possible taking their own amp along as a sound reference.


Regards

Matthew

RE Markbass

Ive got the 2x10 combo and a recent addition of a 1x15. The cabs are so light for starters, which is a plus point... but I can say after gigging this setup for a good while with the Lakland I was quite happy, and now the Sei it sounds ok, but doesnt blow me away... I did a gig in a bad sounding room last week, with the rig in the corner of the room, and couldnt hear any bass whatsoever, just a swamped out drowned sound. Im thinking I may change this setup now, what do people recommend?

I am still settling in with my new bass, so will carry on experimenting with the sounds of the rig.

MBenn
 
RE Markbass

Ive got the 2x10 combo and a recent addition of a 1x15. The cabs are so light for starters, which is a plus point... but I can say after gigging this setup for a good while with the Lakland I was quite happy, and now the Sei it sounds ok, but doesnt blow me away... I did a gig in a bad sounding room last week, with the rig in the corner of the room, and couldnt hear any bass whatsoever, just a swamped out drowned sound. Im thinking I may change this setup now, what do people recommend?

I am still settling in with my new bass, so will carry on experimenting with the sounds of the rig.

MBenn

Hey Mr B - sorry to bang on about this Epifani stuff but if you are a mainly fingerstyle player - which from your tune I'm guessing you are - this gear is so perfect for that, my Thumb bass has never sounded sweeter, and my previous two amps - an Eden Nemesis 2x10 combo, and then my EBS HD350 - never sounded as good. The EBS gear is great for bright slap and probably sounds great when you use a quality J bass through it - but for both my very 'woody' sounding basses, my African mahogany fretless and my Bubinga/wenge Thumb - the Epi 502 is just perfect for bringing out the mids in a very musical way without sounding 'forced'. With EBS every time I pushed the mids on the EQ it just sounded muddy and had very little 'air' in the sound - the Epi stuff is just stunning - it's pricey over here but see if you can find some second hand - I got mine for half the retail price - and it's 600watts - more power than I will ever need!

Based on the sound I know from my two current basses, I think the ash/maple combo with the ebony board of my new Sei will comes through even better because of the emphasis the Epi gear places on the organic/wood sounds, it should sound ridiculously good - and if you hadn't already guessed - I'm extremely happy with my new amp!

M

EDIT - I should add that I am still using my EBS 1x15 Proline cab which sounds great but the Epi speakers are not only lighter but also more powerful - in some far distant time in the future I may be able to afford some of these too... Nick Epifani knows what he is doing with this stuff - it truly rocks.
 
Hello all - found you by accident and have enjoyed reading through all the Sei comments and experiences. I have been the very proud owner of a flamboyant 4 string headed for around 6 years (I think - the years go by too quickly). I bought it pre-owned from Martin having gone to see him about having one built. Its no 065 so I guess one of the older ones. I'll sort some pics out soonest but there is one at www.hollebon.com if you are interested. Cheers, Graham
 
Hello all - found you by accident and have enjoyed reading through all the Sei comments and experiences. I have been the very proud owner of a flamboyant 4 string headed for around 6 years (I think - the years go by too quickly). I bought it pre-owned from Martin having gone to see him about having one built. Its no 065 so I guess one of the older ones. I'll sort some pics out soonest but there is one at www.hollebon.com if you are interested. Cheers, Graham

Hi Graham

Good to see you here, we met at a D2D a couple of years ago, there was your 4 Wulf's 6 and my 7! A great collection of Sei's.

Regards

Matthew
 
Mr B

Dependant on budget I would say change your cabs first and go for something like a Epifani UL 3X10 or an Accugroove Tri2x10 both rock. They are also good at sounding great with most Amps so you might find the Markbass head more to your liking with the different cabs. If you have to change the head then I say go for a Epi 502 it would sound wonderful with either the Epi or Accugroove cabs.

Another good comBination which people rave about is the Aguilar 500 into one or two GS1X12's.[I think I have the modle numbers right]

The good thing about the Epi and Accugroove cabs are they are both lightweight but sound like monsters.

Will post more if I can think of them.

Regards

Matthew
 
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