Double Bass Tempera Hybrid Strings

#81
elmer said:
I´m sure you will like your Helix! I just got mine (finally) and they are stretching now. They seem to be exactly what I was looking for :) A middle ground between gut and steel (closer to gut but good sustain), comfortable tension but not floppy and thicker diameter. A new thicker Velvet Anima perhaps on which I played for years. I wouldn´t trade these for Hybrids I had which were related more to steel strings. Still have Temperas (Basso) on my arco bass.
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I had to take the Helix off :( I´ll report more on the Sonores thread.
 
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#83
I just received my set this week. A couple of questions about installing them:
- Do you put the loops on top of or behind the tailpiece?
- Are you winding them around the tuning shafts in the typical manner, or using loops as shown in their instructions? I installed them per their instructions (by creating a loop at the shaft), which makes the winding process quicker, but the loose ends are now rattling in the pegbox.
 
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#84
Jim Dombrowski said:
- Do you put the loops on top of or behind the tailpiece?
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I have the loops like this

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#87
I installed mine as in their instructions, like in your picture. My tailpiece looks very similar to yours if not identical. I agree it looks weird with the metal clasp riding on that ridge of the tailpiece, but if they sound so darn good this way, I’m not changing it.

I also developed a rattle in the pegbox, which I guess is caused by the loop method of installation. Gonna do something about that..
 
#89
I totally forgot about reversing on the tailpiece until I had half the strings on, so I did them all that way. I have an ultra light tailpiece so I did attach some extra weight. I don't know if any of this makes any difference, but I like the sound and feel of the strings so I'll leave them like that for a while, at least.
 
#92
Jim Dombrowski said:
I just received my set this week. A couple of questions about installing them:
- Do you put the loops on top of or behind the tailpiece?
- Are you winding them around the tuning shafts in the typical manner, or using loops as shown in their instructions? I installed them per their instructions (by creating a loop at the shaft), which makes the winding process quicker, but the loose ends are now rattling in the pegbox.
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#95
kennym57 said:
That's how I did mine
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This makes absolutely no sense to me. As far as I know, no other strings are made to emerge from the back of the tailpiece. Aren't those grooves in the front of the tailpiece meant to guide the strings? And doesn't that kind of mount pretty severely change the string angle?
 
#96
BobDeRosa said:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. As far as I know, no other strings are made to emerge from the back of the tailpiece. Aren't those grooves in the front of the tailpiece meant to guide the strings? And doesn't that kind of mount pretty severely change the string angle?
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This didn't seem right to me, either. I put mine on the other way and am not going to change them. I do like the strings.
 
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#97
BobDeRosa said:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. As far as I know, no other strings are made to emerge from the back of the tailpiece. Aren't those grooves in the front of the tailpiece meant to guide the strings? And doesn't that kind of mount pretty severely change the string angle?
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Genssler specifically designs his strings so that they go through the back of the tailpiece rather than the front. As to what advantage it's supposed to have, I don't know: I've strung my bass "balls out" before and I haven't noticed much of a difference between that and stringing it normally.
 
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#98
The string always points to the saddle of the instrument because it is the shortest way from bridge to saddle. If you mount the strings ball end up it simply moves the tailpiece a bit higher, but doesn‘t change the string angle at the bridge.

The situation gets different if you mount some strings ball end up and the others ball end down. That might rotate the tailpiece a bit and raises and lowers the string angle at the bridge a bit.
 
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#99
Kristian said:
I just switched from Tempera hybrids to Sonores Helix since the hybrids sounded a bit to much like a steel string to me. However, right now the Helix sounds a bit to far in the other direction (but they are of course not played in yet)… Maybe the Tempera Basso would be the middle way for me? Expensive experiments…
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I hope, I'm getting my Hybrids next week to swap them for the Perpetuals...:p I'm very curious about a comparison to the Bassos on my other bass...of course there are two different instruments, but I used Evah Pirazzis and Perpetuals on both instruments, so I hope I can some "real impressions"...:) I also considered the Helix and communicated with Gerold about it, but I decided to go for the Hybrids because of the descriptions of the pizz sound...:p
 
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